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WestJet misses profit targets

High jet fuel prices, hurricanes blamed; shares descend as investors take flight


BRENT JANG

TRANSPORTATION REPORTER

WestJet Airlines Ltd. missed fourth-quarter profit targets by a wide margin yesterday as high fuel prices and hurricanes eroded the carrier's bottom line, prompting chairman Clive Beddoe to scold investors for panicking about the weak results.






The Calgary-based carrier posted a $1-million profit or 1 cent a share, falling well short of expectations of 8 cents in a survey of 15 analysts by Thomson First Call.

WestJet also disclosed that its $35-million project to install a new reservations system, originally planned for booting up this summer, will be delayed between six and 12 months.

Mr. Beddoe said he's puzzled why so many investors headed for the exits as WestJet shares descended yesterday on the Toronto Stock Exchange to $11.95, a drop of 86 cents or 6.7 per cent -- the sharpest fall since June, 2004. Almost 2.2 million shares traded hands, or four times the average daily volume.

"From my perspective, I see it as a typical overreaction by people overlooking the fundamentals. I don't understand it," Mr. Beddoe said in an interview. "People want to see dramatic changes, but we're not in the dramatic change business. We're in the business of making solid improvements to what we're doing."

He pointed out that the latest results are vastly better than the loss of $46.3-million or 37 cents a share in the fourth quarter of 2004, when WestJet took a large writedown after deciding to phase out its aging Boeing 737-200s ahead of schedule.

Stubbornly high jet fuel prices and hurricanes Katrina, Rita and Wilma hurt WestJet in the latest quarter, with the storms forcing many vacationers to cancel their planned flights, especially to Florida and Mexico. But Mr. Beddoe said the business fundamentals of the airline remain strong, with steady improvements in passenger loads even as the carrier expands its seat capacity. "That's what the smarter money will be looking at."

Yield, a key airline industry statistic that measures revenue per passenger mile, rose to 18.3 cents from 16.3 cents at WestJet.

WestJet's domestic market share of scheduled service has risen to 33 per cent from nearly 30 per cent in the past year, showing that it's faring well against the dominant carrier, Air Canada, Mr. Beddoe added.

However, analysts expressed concern about WestJet's performance. Michael Linenberg, an analyst at Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc., said the airline's unit costs have climbed 16 per cent over the past year. And David Newman, an analyst at National Bank Financial Inc., noted that WestJet's sales and marketing expenses reached $37-million in the fourth quarter, up 68 per cent from $22-million in the same period in 2004.

Some of that increase came from a marketing campaign to lure business travellers in Ontario.

Mr. Beddoe said it's important to promote WestJet in Ontario because "it's money well spent," and he's pleased with the increased traffic for his airline at Toronto's Pearson International Airport.

He's forecasting a profitable 2006, following last year's $24-million profit. Revenue rose 32 per cent to $1.39-billion last year, bolstered by higher fares after last March's shutdown of discount rival Jetsgo Corp.

The delay in switching over to a new reservations system, code-named Aires, also means strategic alliances with foreign carriers will take longer to announce than originally planned. "This is a hugely complex project. It's the computer interfaces that are presenting challenges for us," Mr. Beddoe said, referring to the task of getting WestJet's system to work smoothly with partners such as the Air Miles loyalty program.

Even if the new technology takes until the spring or summer of 2007 to switch on, "the benefits will be worth it" because WestJet will be able to bundle certain user-pay perks and also boost passenger loads with connecting travellers from foreign carriers, he said.

WestJet celebrates its 10th anniversary at the end of this month.


Q4 2005 2004
Profit $1-million -$46.3-million
EPS 1¢ -37¢
Revenue
$367.9-million $273.7-million
Yearly Profit
$24-million -$17-million
EPS 19¢ -14¢
Revenue
$1.39-billion $1.09-billion



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Hey, at least they are making money, despite the fuel prices (more than $7.00 US per gallon in some airports around New York, egad) and the hurricane.

The lovely Lisa and I flew on WestJet a few weeks ago and I must say their new planes are pretty sweet. leather everything and the little tvs in each seat back are the cat's ass. I watched Discovery Channel and then Dog the Bounty Hunter during our flight. And it seems they are cutting down on the rapid-fire joke delivery, which is also good.
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AC just loss 103 million for thier Q4....WJ didn't do too bad than...lol. trol nice take though....
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difference being!

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The difference being, ACE employees renumeration isn't tied to profit. Yes they will all get a tiny little bonus "beer and wine" money so to speak. Close to $300M in yearly profit with $70.00 oil is pretty damn good when you look at the rest of the North American carriers, NO?

That is why I will say once again that "cash money" is better for the pilots than the piramid scheme of the past.

WJA profits will continue to shrink as growth levels off and having the "cash money" alternative for the fly-boys is a huge win for them.

Minimal profit sharing, worthless stock options, geez I hope you guys go for the new pay system.
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I watched...Dog the Bounty Hunter during our flight
Is it possible to take someone seriously when they admit to watching Dog the Bounty Hunter?

57 channels and nothing's on...
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troll number 2...lol...103 million is close to half of the jazz ipo proceeds to bring things into the light. I really don't think you understand tha with over 250 million in da bank and a strong debt to equity ratio we ain't going away anytime soon. If you don't like our pay...don't worry about it. Your analysis only makes you look like a jackass since you are only speculating. The last time I looked it was 15% growth for 2006 and around 10% 2007. sounds like growth to me....over 2 weeks pay on the last profit share. options paid me last year(just after jetsgo and a few last week) my t4 beat last years by 20 grand.....what is there to complain about Mark??...lol(also to the best of my knowledge based on 33000 full time employees...profit share would be about 1000 take home each after tax depending on your salary level)...if you are comparing it's just some FYI...258 million for the year though...good job AC!
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HarkMill posted: Minimal profit sharing, worthless stock options, geez I hope you guys go for the new pay system.

What are you talking about? We get free chips and hamburgers at no-profit share cry-in at the Hangar.




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Blastor wrote:
HarkMill posted: Minimal profit sharing, worthless stock options, geez I hope you guys go for the new pay system.

What are you talking about? We get free chips and hamburgers at no-profit share cry-in at the Hangar.




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Better to get free chips and burgers than expired Harvey's coupons and a pay cut.
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Hadji Ramjet wrote:
I watched...Dog the Bounty Hunter during our flight
Is it possible to take someone seriously when they admit to watching Dog the Bounty Hunter?

57 channels and nothing's on...

Dog rocks and his wife is truly formidable. You just let me know when Ozzy Osbourne composes and sings your personal theme song. Then I'll care if you take me seriously :)
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I'd say AC's employee's are just as affected by profit(or lack of) as Westjet's. Only when there is a profit, WJ's get a cheque, and in AC's case, Milty gets millions.

I'm pretty sure AC's employees took a major hit, if memory serves, during CCAA. Not tied to profit? Just shows what a dumbass you are Harkmill
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Just shows what a dumbass you are Harkmill
Spoken like a true westjetter



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did you forget to log on as harkmill this time?
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Troll

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And you guys call me a troll!!!

Ok, last post...

I like to have fun with Westjetters! K I admit it.

I am really Sleuth, the guy who outted Danny Dog and Lancaster. I haven't been around for a bit cause I have a life, unlike the 3 WJ super trolls that cruise around on 4 or 5 different boards, including "stockhouse, AEF, etc.. etc..

I am at a loss why you people find it imperative to spread the gospel on so many different sites, it wreaks of stock manipulation and plain old grade 5 na, na, na boo boo...

You gents toil in others misery, a la Jetsgo!

I'm just around to mix it up... Ya know have some fun.

In reality, I think your boss is a comlete weiner and was involved in one of the biggest espionage scams in the country, I know, I know "guilty till proven. Anyway, the real HarkMill isn't allowed to play on here anymore LOL! Got his pee pee smacked so to speak.

So while you real "trolls" run around bad mouthing everything "not Westjet" I pick my spots and give you a poke for reality sake.

I hope you do get a real raise cuz $700.00 every 2 weeks is criminal and now the real pilots in the country have had to sink to that level. Yes, the real pilots, you know the ones from the Bud commercial. Not the "discount airline pilot guys" that you all are.

"Troll On" ye merry mates for I am off to a real job and shant return until I am ready. Let me know how that raise works out, I'm rootin' for ya.

Sleuth, Skeezex, HarkMill or whatever ya like. Adios!

Blastor, way to keep em' on their toes. Carry on!
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Whatever you say, buddy. :lol:

Learn more about Blastor and HarkMill
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So, I wonder who or what Harkmill and Blastor will "blame" this Q4 loss on ...


Canadian Press
Published: Friday, February 10, 2006

-- ACE Aviation Holdings Inc., the corporate parent of Air Canada, announced more job cuts Friday while reporting a fourth-quarter loss of $103 million, down from a year-earlier profit of $15 million.

Canada's biggest airline said its net income was $258 million in its first full year since emerging from creditor protection, contrasting with a 2004 loss of $880 million which included $871 million in reorganization and restructuring costs.

ACE also announced Friday it will "now proceed with the reduction of non-unionized staffing levels by 20 per cent.''

CEO Robert Milton said the elimination of the undisclosed number of management and other non-union employees ``is necessary in this cost environment as we advance with the implementation of our business model which removes the layers of complexity that existed at the previous legacy airline.''

At the same time, ACE said employees of Air Canada and the Jazz regional operation will receive a total of $54.8 million through its profit sharing plan for 2005.

``Although rising fuel costs have prevented us from achieving our 2005 profitability targets, the ACE board has approved the 2005 profit sharing payments on an extraordinary basis to recognize the efforts of our employees,'' Milton stated.

Air Canada workers get $43.5 million or an average of 2.7 per cent of their salaries, of which $30 million has already been paid in monthly incentives. Jazz workers get $11.3 million.

Milton said high jet fuel prices made the past year ``challenging,'' but ACE's results ``are among the strongest in the industry and we've made good progress in building shareholder value, reinventing our business and winning over more customers.''

Fuel costs were up by $592 million or 37 per cent for the year.

Full-year operating revenue rose 10 per cent to $9.83 billion from $8.90 billion, with per-share earnings of $2.46 and an operating profit margin of 4.6 per cent, up from 1.3 per cent in the prior year.

Quarterly revenue was $2.36 billion, up 14 1/2 per cent from $2.06 billion, ``reflecting passenger revenue increases in all markets,'' the airline said. The net loss of $1.02 per share in the seasonally weak October-December quarter compared with a year-ago profit of 17 cents per share.

The latest period included $30 million in writedowns or losses on the sale of assets, including $15 million on inactive Boeing 747s. There also were foreign exchange losses of $11 million, compared with currency gains of $78 million a year ago.

During the year ACE raised $792 million in new equity and debt, plus $287.5 million by spinning off the Aeroplan loyalty program income trust.

Jazz was spun off into an income trust effective Feb. 2, and Milton said ACE will monetize Air Canada Technical Services ``at the earliest appropriate opportunity.''

He commented that the solid fourth-quarter revenue increase "was not enough to offset rising fuel costs. We must renew our efforts to achieve a cost structure that will allow us to remain profitable in an environment of record high oil prices.''

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I'm so proud of my Westjetty friends.

See how compelling their arguments are? See how their explications make sense? See how coolly they discuss the original subject. They are the pride of Westjet.

WestJet plans slip on fuel costs



Chris Sorensen, Financial Post

Published: Thursday, February 09, 2006

WestJet Airlines Ltd. has found itself in the uncomfortable position of looking for new ways to coax money from passengers while maintaining its image as a low-cost, low-fare airline.

The Calgary-based carrier, whose shares fell 7% yesterday after the company reported weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter earnings, said finding new revenue opportunities was behind a decision to invest in a new reservation system and begin charging passengers for headsets on flights, a move that is estimated to raise an additional $3.5-million a year in sales.

Analysts say WestJet, which for years has relied on an ability to offer low airfares to stimulate demand, is coming to grips with the realization that its low-cost, low-fare model is not nearly as effective in a high fuel-price environment.

WestJet has some of the lowest costs in the industry and is hesitant to dramatically raise fares lest they drive passengers to the competition -- a recently restructured Air Canada, which competes with WestJet through its low-priced Tango fare class.

"I think Air Canada is the airfare leader in most domestic markets," said Rick Erickson, an independent, Calgary-based analyst. "And that makes it tough for the low-cost operator because they can't easily pump up their yields."

WestJet's solution to the dilemma is to follow Air Canada's lead and invest millions in a new reservation system that encourages passengers to "buy up" by bundling airfares with such extras as full refunds for cancellations.

The reservation system would allow WestJet to partner with other airlines, driving more traffic on to WestJet's network.

David Newman, an analyst at National Bank Financial, said in a recent research note that the new reservation system was one of the reasons for his bullish "outperform" rating on WestJet's stock heading into 2006.

Clive Beddoe, WestJet's CEO, told analysts yesterday the date for implementing the new system had been pushed back six months and is now targeting a launch date in early 2007.

The delay could cause WestJet to miss on an a huge opportunity this year, Mr. Erickson said. "In a sense, this is about as good as it gets [for the sector]. Look at how strong the Canadian economy is and how buoyant the market for air travel is."

It's a frustrating situation for WestJet, which appears to be doing all the right things to execute a low-cost model. Mr. Beddoe said the airline has increased its share of the lucrative business travel market to 28% from 18% -- thanks in part to a decision two years ago to move WestJet's eastern hub from Hamilton, Ont., to Toronto. He also said an expanded marketing campaign in Eastern Canada has been paying off, with more than half of WestJet's passengers flying through Toronto.

Mr. Beddoe called WestJet's fourth-quarter earnings of $1-million (1 cents a share) "disappointing" even though it represented an improvement from last year when the airline's fleet replacement program pushed the carrier into the red with a net loss of $46-million.

Yesterday's results came as WestJet managed to fly fuller planes on more routes and raise its yield by about 12% during the quarter. "The increase [in yield] was greater than any other quarter in our history," Mr. Beddoe told analysts. "But it was not quite sufficient to produce the profitability we would have liked."

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Blastor, perhaps you'd care to comment on the following:
ACE made a profit of $258 million in the same fiscal year in which they sold a . of Aeroplan for $287.5 million. If they hadn't sold part of an asset, they'd have lost $29.5 million.

I would've hoped that a business plan expecting to yield results "among the strongest in the industry" might focus on making money selling tickets to customers, not on selling off portions of the company.
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Hadji Ramjet wrote:Blastor, perhaps you'd care to comment on the following:
ACE made a profit of $258 million in the same fiscal year in which they sold a . of Aeroplan for $287.5 million. If they hadn't sold part of an asset, they'd have lost $29.5 million.

I would've hoped that a business plan expecting to yield results "among the strongest in the industry" might focus on making money selling tickets to customers, not on selling off portions of the company.
Sorry but your financial reasoning is slightly flawed. The $300 million in excess cash was derived solely from the partial sale of ACE’ s ownership of Aeroplan and other non-operating items and has nothing to due with the calculation of net income. In summary the $ 258 million was all operating profit.

For what its worth that's economics 101.
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Actually, to use but one example, ACE recorded non-operating income of $190 million as a dilution gain of its interests in Aeroplan LLP.

The $258 million was net, not operating income. At least so says ACE's annual report.

Transportation services alone (excluding Aeroplan, Jazz & ACTS) brought in a net $7 million. "Strongest in the industry?" Is Milton only referring to North America?
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Hadji Ramjet wrote:Actually, to use but one example, ACE recorded non-operating income of $190 million as a dilution gain of its interests in Aeroplan LLP.

The $258 million was net, not operating income. At least so says ACE's annual report.

Transportation services alone (excluding Aeroplan, Jazz & ACTS) brought in a net $7 million. "Strongest in the industry?" Is Milton only referring to North America?
You can put any spin on the ACE 2005 profits that you wish however the bottom line is still a $258M profit for ACE not including the $300M partial sale of ACE’ s ownership of Aeroplan and other non-operating items.

Some analyst’s are suggesting it should have been more given the increase in revenue however ACE needs to cut other expense’s hence the non-union layoff’s. The price of oil and the growing number of available new seats is going to impact the industry in the coming year so it could be a rough ride ahead...

As for the rest of your comments I suggest you e-mail Milton and ask him.
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What's that smell?...........



oh yeah it's the furniture burning. Never mind go back to bed :shock:
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however the bottom line is still a $258M profit for ACE not including the $300M partial sale of ACE’ s ownership of Aeroplan and other non-operating items
Shall I assume then that your Econ 101 classes didn't extend to the reading of annual reports, as the 2005 ACE report is not in accord with your claim? "Non-operating" income is in fact included and exceeds the 2005 net profit. Perchance your courseload was a little heavy and you skipped a few lectures?
Some analyst’s are suggesting it should have been more given the increase in revenue
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Hadji Ramjet wrote:
The bottom line is still a $258M profit for ACE..
Some analyst’s are suggesting it should have been more given the increase in revenue
Who?
Might I suggest that you read Fridays National Post..Oh and I'm out of this thread, have fun.
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Oh and I'm out of this thread, have fun.
Of course you are, you may actually be full of shit this time. :roll:
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Rebel wrote:
Hadji Ramjet wrote:
The bottom line is still a $258M profit for ACE..
Some analyst’s are suggesting it should have been more given the increase in revenue
Who?
Might I suggest that you read Fridays National Post..Oh and I'm out of this thread, have fun.
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