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Any good news on the horizon?

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The last 2 years have been pretty dismal, when comparing to the US things feel even worse to be honest. Is there any good news coming up for the Canadian industry?
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The UP was packed yesterday. Both boarding to leave Pearson and heading to their flights. Haven’t seen that in a while.

More seriously though. The Sunwing purchase is a great sign (or at least I keep telling myself that). Smarter people than I approved a gigantic purchase in the aviation sector. Can’t imagine that would happen if it’s considered a toxic asset to those in the VC field.

Airlines are recalling and actively recruiting new pilots.

I’m cautiously optimistic as we had towards summer.
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Prices of Jet Fuel will push the tickets prices up, and will definitely hurt the demand. Now we have to see how much people really want to travel. Will they accept the price hike or enjoy vacation more locally? Time will tell.
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None I can see lol
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I don't think middle class people will be able to afford leisure air travel with the rising cost of food, housing, and fuel combined with stagnating salaries. I hope I am wrong but myself and most of my friends are definitely feeling the pinch.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:15 am I don't think middle class people will be able to afford leisure air travel with the rising cost of food, housing, and fuel combined with stagnating salaries. I hope I am wrong but myself and most of my friends are definitely feeling the pinch.

You’re not wrong….I agree 100%

Historically you can kill the industry by:

-terrorist attack
-exorbitant fuel prices
-government red tape
-recession
-financial calamity ( 2008/2009) recession

Most factors exist right now. I also don’t see consumer confidence as being overly high. ( I think plenty are petrified of the virus)
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McKinley wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:43 am
Ash Ketchum wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:15 am I don't think middle class people will be able to afford leisure air travel with the rising cost of food, housing, and fuel combined with stagnating salaries. I hope I am wrong but myself and most of my friends are definitely feeling the pinch.

You’re not wrong….I agree 100%

Historically you can kill the industry by:

-terrorist attack
-exorbitant fuel prices
-government red tape
-recession
-financial calamity ( 2008/2009) recession

Most factors exist right now. I also don’t see consumer confidence as being overly high. ( I think plenty are petrified of the virus)
You’re both right, it’s very scary times. Financially speaking the average Canadian is strapped due to inflation and interest hikes. Wages certainly aren’t following suit. Now with military tensions in Eastern Europe and Russia as well as other areas of the world (including Canada) preparing for the worst, it’s hard for people to ignore these facts when deciding to travel.
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WW3 has started.... not much good news on the horizon
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JHR wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:16 am WW3 has started.... not much good news on the horizon
Nope......
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Not many Americans will vacation in Canada due to the requirement for a Covid test and all the negative press in regards to the trucker protests.
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$2 per litre fuel will not help the industry recover.
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I hope they ditch the stupid testing requirements soon but yes the price of everything is going up and up. Gas is already over $2 in some places and it’s going to continue to rise. All depends if the war spreads too. Not WW3 yet but it could easily escalate.
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Didn’t someone on this site say oil prices had nothing to do with inflation? Can’t recall.

I warned you.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... +is+coming

Then i warned you again.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=152287
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Bug_Stomper_01 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:46 am
McKinley wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:43 am
Ash Ketchum wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:15 am I don't think middle class people will be able to afford leisure air travel with the rising cost of food, housing, and fuel combined with stagnating salaries. I hope I am wrong but myself and most of my friends are definitely feeling the pinch.

You’re not wrong….I agree 100%

Historically you can kill the industry by:

-terrorist attack
-exorbitant fuel prices
-government red tape
-recession
-financial calamity ( 2008/2009) recession

Most factors exist right now. I also don’t see consumer confidence as being overly high. ( I think plenty are petrified of the virus)
You’re both right, it’s very scary times. Financially speaking the average Canadian is strapped due to inflation and interest hikes. Wages certainly aren’t following suit. Now with military tensions in Eastern Europe and Russia as well as other areas of the world (including Canada) preparing for the worst, it’s hard for people to ignore these facts when deciding to travel.

Ya, I don’t have a good feeling about any of this…

I sell firewood on the side…. Firewood is now being used for home heating again….
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McKinley wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:37 pm
Bug_Stomper_01 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:46 am
McKinley wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:43 am


You’re not wrong….I agree 100%

Historically you can kill the industry by:

-terrorist attack
-exorbitant fuel prices
-government red tape
-recession
-financial calamity ( 2008/2009) recession

Most factors exist right now. I also don’t see consumer confidence as being overly high. ( I think plenty are petrified of the virus)
You’re both right, it’s very scary times. Financially speaking the average Canadian is strapped due to inflation and interest hikes. Wages certainly aren’t following suit. Now with military tensions in Eastern Europe and Russia as well as other areas of the world (including Canada) preparing for the worst, it’s hard for people to ignore these facts when deciding to travel.

Ya, I don’t have a good feeling about any of this…

I sell firewood on the side…. Firewood is now being used for home heating again….
When was the last time y’all had a good feeling about anything..
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Blueontop wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:45 pm
McKinley wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:37 pm
Bug_Stomper_01 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:46 am

You’re both right, it’s very scary times. Financially speaking the average Canadian is strapped due to inflation and interest hikes. Wages certainly aren’t following suit. Now with military tensions in Eastern Europe and Russia as well as other areas of the world (including Canada) preparing for the worst, it’s hard for people to ignore these facts when deciding to travel.

Ya, I don’t have a good feeling about any of this…

I sell firewood on the side…. Firewood is now being used for home heating again….
When was the last time y’all had a good feeling about anything..
Ouch

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Poor guy comes looking for some positive news and gets bombarded with rising cost of living and threat of WW3. Gotta love Avcanada.
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newlygrounded wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:50 am The last 2 years have been pretty dismal, when comparing to the US things feel even worse to be honest. Is there any good news coming up for the Canadian industry?
Every regional and LCC are hiring...
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Tbayer2021 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:01 pm Poor guy comes looking for some positive news and gets bombarded with rising cost of living and threat of WW3. Gotta love Avcanada.
Truth hurts
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Tbayer2021 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:01 pm Poor guy comes looking for some positive news and gets bombarded with rising cost of living and threat of WW3. Gotta love Avcanada.
LOL yeah I'm aware what's going on in the world. I think I've seen 2 good news replies here :/
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JHR wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:11 am
Tbayer2021 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:01 pm Poor guy comes looking for some positive news and gets bombarded with rising cost of living and threat of WW3. Gotta love Avcanada.
Truth hurts
It has nothing to do with "truth hurts". You'd have to be a caveman to be ignorant of those things at this point. Maybe this person just wanted a shred of hope to look forward to. Something that would make his day a little brighter. But you just had to hammer him down and make sure he felt just like you do.

newlygrounded, more and more companies are hiring and expansions seem to be back in order. My company will need to almost double its current pilot roster due to new 703 duty regs coming into play. I think we are actually hiring for all three types (757, ATR and 208) since many of the pilots we took on during the pandemic are taking their recalls back to their respective airlines.
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I personally have been pretty downtrodden about our little world and where it’s been heading these past two years. However, I always new the pandemic would end and life would go on. It’s what been driving my perspective since everything started. But now I’m looking at, for the first time in my life, the very palpable possibility that we could enter in something truly world ending.

And it’s because of some asshole more concerned with himself and his “legacy” then the millions/billions of people he’s affecting, destroying and killing. It’s scary and heartbreaking all at the same time.
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How was I hammering on anyone? History may look at Putins actions as the beginning of WW3...but don't worry...Jazz is hiring
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JHR wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:33 pm How was I hammering on anyone? History may look at Putins actions as the beginning of WW3...but don't worry...Jazz is hiring
Lol
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JHR wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:33 pm How was I hammering on anyone? History may look at Putins actions as the beginning of WW3...but don't worry...Jazz is hiring
Sad but true..
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