Transat AT seeking additional government funding after reporting $114.3M Q1 loss

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hithere wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:38 pm Pay increase? Do you mean you have an increase in your monthly flying and therefore more money or that you somehow got an hourly pay rate increase?
Hourly pay rate increase and everyone back at 80hrs credit. Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
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Kingair200 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:23 am
FL320 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:01 am Some good news (for the short term at least).
Pay increase; back to normal schedule, recall of all pilots, etc.
possbily of hiring too?
Maybe by the end of the year .. but not in the short term. Unless a bunch of junior guys jump to AC .. time will tell.
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Localizer wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:26 am

Maybe by the end of the year .. but not in the short term. Unless a bunch of junior guys jump to AC .. time will tell.
Lots of junior pilots have already left and are flying at other jobs. They've kept their place at AT in case their new jobs don't work out well enough. The company won't know they've left until they get a recall and deny it.
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I know a few who recently resigned to go DEC at Swoop. Many have been recently called by AC for an interview; once job offers will be sent in a few weeks or months Air Transat will have a hard time; and the management is well aware of this problem pending…
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They only lost ~10 pilots since the beginning of the pandemic, including 1 or 2 that retired if I'm not mistaken.

There's around 60 pilots left to recall, should be within the next month or 2. Most of the pilots on layoff or LOA are flying at a temporary job and will come back to Transat (training bond, waiting for other recalls so they have better seniority, etc.)

The only threat to TS is AC hiring, the rest is not an issue.
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Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am
hithere wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:38 pm Pay increase? Do you mean you have an increase in your monthly flying and therefore more money or that you somehow got an hourly pay rate increase?
Hourly pay rate increase and everyone back at 80hrs credit. Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
The union just negotiated a 3 year contract extension with pay increases of 3%, 3% and 2.5%. The deal needs to be ratified still, should voted on in May.
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Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
Brutal
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**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am
Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
Brutal
258k starting May 1 2024 if the TA gets ratified.
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**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am
Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
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Considering the last two years .. I’ll take it ..
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**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am
Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
Brutal
Holy christ. 258k is brutal. Get your head outta the sand. If that’s brutal you’ve clearly made some wrong life choices cause I know 100s who would line up for that in any industry.
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flyinhigh wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:27 pm
**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am
Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
Brutal
Holy christ. 258k is brutal. Get your head outta the sand. If that’s brutal you’ve clearly made some wrong life choices cause I know 100s who would line up for that in any industry.
Mr. "Offthecuff", who's head is in the sand?
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sluggo wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:37 am
flyinhigh wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:27 pm
**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am

Brutal
Holy christ. 258k is brutal. Get your head outta the sand. If that’s brutal you’ve clearly made some wrong life choices cause I know 100s who would line up for that in any industry.
Mr. "Offthecuff", who's head is in the sand?
I guess I do. Working an average of 10-12 days a month is certainly worth an additional 50K. Lets not forget, literally a month before the pandemic Transat boosted ALL Captain pay by an average of (if memory serves) 27%. First year Narrow Body Capt went from 103 up what it is now of $149. Not to bad for during a Pandemic. Wide Body also went way up, and lets not forget now that 321 pilots are NOT narrowbody pay therefore every single pilot on the TS property gets Widebody pay.

With this bump and the situation at TS, I don't think anyone expected to have a bump in pay at all.
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Localizer wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:27 pm
**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am
Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
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Considering the last two years .. I’ll take it ..
Classic Canadian pilot defeatist attitude.

Sure of course you'll take it, but I hope you don't actually think it's acceptable in the long run.
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flyinhigh wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:27 pm
**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am
Latitude wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:57 am Top captain pay scale around 258K a year now.
Brutal
Holy christ. 258k is brutal. Get your head outta the sand. If that’s brutal you’ve clearly made some wrong life choices cause I know 100s who would line up for that in any industry.
That's less than A YEAR ONE A220 CA AT DELTA MAKES. In a country where you can live without state tax and buy a very nice home in some of the most expensive cities for less than a condo in Vancouver or Toronto. RAISE YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

Yeesh. Who cares how many people would sell their soul for that kind of cheddar. Still remains, that we are significantly underpaid compared to our global and North American peers.
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elonmusk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:41 am
flyinhigh wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:27 pm
**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am

Brutal
Holy christ. 258k is brutal. Get your head outta the sand. If that’s brutal you’ve clearly made some wrong life choices cause I know 100s who would line up for that in any industry.
That's less than A YEAR ONE A220 CA AT DELTA MAKES. In a country where you can live without state tax and buy a very nice home in some of the most expensive cities for less than a condo in Vancouver or Toronto. RAISE YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

Yeesh. Who cares how many people would sell their soul for that kind of cheddar. Still remains, that we are significantly underpaid compared to our global and North American peers.
Welcome to Canada. Let me know the last time any lawyer/arbitrator cared what a US company makes. Hell even Allegiant pays a year one Capt $158K US.
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elonmusk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:41 am
flyinhigh wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:27 pm
**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am

Brutal
Holy christ. 258k is brutal. Get your head outta the sand. If that’s brutal you’ve clearly made some wrong life choices cause I know 100s who would line up for that in any industry.
That's less than A YEAR ONE A220 CA AT DELTA MAKES. In a country where you can live without state tax and buy a very nice home in some of the most expensive cities for less than a condo in Vancouver or Toronto. RAISE YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

Yeesh. Who cares how many people would sell their soul for that kind of cheddar. Still remains, that we are significantly underpaid compared to our global and North American peers.
Considering the chatter on here that Transat wouldn’t survive the pandemic, and are now offering a pay raise, I need to raise my expectations?

If you read my post in other threads I’m advocating for unity in the industry so we can all benefit and raise wawcon across the board. Until we realize our strength as a solid unit, we’ll never see the industry you guys envision.
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elonmusk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:41 am
flyinhigh wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:27 pm
**** wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:37 am

Brutal
Holy christ. 258k is brutal. Get your head outta the sand. If that’s brutal you’ve clearly made some wrong life choices cause I know 100s who would line up for that in any industry.
That's less than A YEAR ONE A220 CA AT DELTA MAKES. In a country where you can live without state tax and buy a very nice home in some of the most expensive cities for less than a condo in Vancouver or Toronto. RAISE YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

Yeesh. Who cares how many people would sell their soul for that kind of cheddar. Still remains, that we are significantly underpaid compared to our global and North American peers.
It's nice you come in here slinging feces out our house, but perhaps you should clean the feces off yours first. Would we like to be paid more? Yes. Given Transat's circumstances, it's not entirely possible, and certainly not to be paid more than AC per hour.
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Do you keep your years of service when moving to the captain's seat or do you start from year 1. I heard they have also removed the narrowbody payscale so does the widebody payscale apply to all the pilots of the company?
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Aspiredtofly wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 3:13 pm Do you keep your years of service when moving to the captain's seat or do you start from year 1. I heard they have also removed the narrowbody payscale so does the widebody payscale apply to all the pilots of the company?
You skip to YEAR 2 after a few years as FO. I dont remember the exact number of years tho.

And no the narrowbody pay scale still exists, but it's in the event Transat gets A220 for example at least they still have a pay scale the union can negotiate with instead of starting from 0. But yes all pilots in the company are paid widebody pay scale.
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Are there any hiring plans at all this year? What are the minimum requirements like?
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