Cherokee 140 near Sioux Lookout

[ShawnR]

https://globalnews.ca/news/8800241/mara ... -confirms/

Flight Dryden to Marathon but crash site near Sioux Lookout

[PilotDAR]

Can someone confirm that this is a different crash from the "Wawa crash"? Wawa was a Comanche, pilot and pax, is this a second, Cherokee, pilot and 3 pax? Or might there be confusion, and SAR recently found the first crashed Piper?

[ShawnR]

Yes, a different plane.

This one left Dryden, ON Friday night and crashed about an hour later. SAR techs found this one the next morning, early. 4 bodies have been recovered.

[rookiepilot]

Prayers….

[JasonE]

Dang another Northern one, at least the ELT worked this time to locate the plane. Condolences to the family and friends.

[fish4life]

Weather has been absolute crap lately no business for piston singles to be flying around

[J31]

A bit more information.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder- ... -1.6437527

[J31]

While weather may not have been a cause, it was not very good for VFR in the dark. Sunset was about 2020 local time. I do not know when they headed out from Dryden but here is the weather at Sioux Lookout on April 29, 1400-0000 local time.

SA 29/04/2022 19:00-> METAR CYXL 291900Z 16006KT 100V230 15SM OVC042 09/M02 A3005 RMK SC8 SLP192=
SA 29/04/2022 20:00-> METAR CYXL 292000Z 12007KT 090V180 15SM OVC031 09/M02 A3004 RMK SC8 SLP189=
SA 29/04/2022 21:00-> METAR CYXL 292100Z 14004KT 110V170 15SM OVC031 09/M01 A3004 RMK SC8 SLP189=
SA 29/04/2022 22:00-> METAR CYXL 292200Z 12005KT 070V150 15SM OVC026 08/M02 A3002 RMK SC8 SLP185=
SP 29/04/2022 22:40-> SPECI CYXL 292240Z 12006KT 080V180 12SM -RA OVC026 07/M01 A3003 RMK SC8 SLP188=
SA 29/04/2022 23:00-> METAR CYXL 292300Z 14008KT 100V170 10SM -RA BKN023 OVC030 06/00 A3003 RMK SC5SC3 SLP188=
SA 30/04/2022 00:00-> METAR CYXL 300000Z 12005KT 15SM OVC018 05/02 A3004 RMK SC8 SLP191=
SA 30/04/2022 01:00-> METAR CYXL 300100Z 09004KT 15SM OVC020 05/01 A3004 RMK SC8 SLP191=
SA 30/04/2022 02:00-> METAR CYXL 300200Z 09005KT 050V110 15SM -RA OVC020 05/00 A3005 RMK SC8 SLP195=
SA 30/04/2022 03:00-> METAR CYXL 300300Z 11005KT 070V140 15SM -RA OVC030 04/00 A3005 RMK SC8 SLP193=
SA 30/04/2022 04:00-> METAR CYXL 300400Z 09005KT 15SM -RA OVC035 04/01 A3004 RMK SC8 SLP190=
SA 30/04/2022 05:00-> METAR CYXL 300500Z 09006KT 15SM -RA OVC040 03/01 A3002 RMK SC8 SLP185=

TAF CYXL 291940Z 2920/3008 16008KT P6SM SCT020 OVC040
TEMPO 2920/3008 P6SM -SHRA BKN020 OVC040 RMK NXT FCST
BY 300200Z=

TAF CYXL 300140Z 3002/3014 16008KT P6SM SCT020 OVC040
TEMPO 3002/3009 P6SM -SHRA BKN020 OVC040 FM300900 09010KT
P6SM SCT060 BKN120 RMK NXT FCST BY 300800Z=

[185_guy]

Flightradar24 shows a small piper in the area around 02z…..
It was rainy….. it was dark….it’s been a long day beating across the continent at 80kts….
Dark in that area is dark. There may be a tower light blinking somewhere, maybe not. On a cloudy night, it’s IFR.
Very sad

[phillyfan]

Rumor circulating about what was found in the plane?

[cncpc]

Not yet.

[JasonE]

4 people in a Cherokee 140 does not leave much weight for fuel to go cross country either (depending on the size of the people).

[linecrew]

It appears they were going across the country in a series of relatively short hops. A bit of an unusual track coming out of Dryden:

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/277784
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CGLKD

[ShawnR]

Interesting....the aviation-safety-net link above says it is a Warrior 161. Everything I see in T/C is a 140. Does not matter in the end, ie, still a Cherokee and still 4 lives lost. The Warrior has a slightly larger gross weight and larger engine so how does a reporter or safety reporter get that kind of data wrong?

Just frustrating to see reports that I would normally believe, to be false.

Wish that we knew the thought processes for taking off in those conditions, etc.

Thanks for the links

[jnoon]

Police have confirmed one man on board was a fugitve, wanted by the Royal Thialand Police for murder.

https://www.cfseu.bc.ca/wanted-fugitive ... ane-crash/

[JasonE]

Registration comes up as a '67 PA28-140. That particular model likely has between 750-800 lbs useful load.

[pelmet]

Thai news reports that he may have been suicidal. I wonder what he was doing in an Cherokee 140 with three other people. Perhaps the last few minutes of the flight were more interesting than initially thought.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news- ... ice-looms/

[flyndad]

Con-air

[karmutzen]

The irony that by choosing GA he incurred the same penalty he was trying to avoid.

[cncpc]

The irony that by choosing GA he incurred the same penalty he was trying to avoid.

He was killed in a plane crash. That's something we all try to avoid.

[linecrew]

Interesting....the aviation-safety-net link above says it is a Warrior 161."

The text appears to have been updated to the correct version of the Cherokee. Nothing in the CADORS yet.

[freakonature]

Does anyone know if this was the pilots airplane?

[karmutzen]

Does anyone know if this was the pilots airplane?

No. Pilot has been identified and the airplane owner has been identified on the media links posted (CBC, Vancouver Sun, etc).

[PilotDAR]

I seems that the occupants were from a non traditional sector of our society:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.6441818

I expect that there were unusual pressures to continue a "private" (clandestine?) flight...

[ICUP]

Oh clandestine flights have been successfully (and unsuccessfully) happening for a while now. Incidents like these may start tightening security among GA as seen in other parts of the world… unfortunate