Mainline hiring

[CXALE]

https://career4.successfactors.com/care ... hT9niII%3d

Good luck!!

[Bugsie]

Can someone post the pay scales
Thanks

[frog]

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/air ... an/westjet

[slob driver]

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[goingmissed]

Can someone post the pay scales
Thanks

77.5 Hour MMG with Years Of Service moving over from position to position (eg. complete 3 years as FO and upgrade to captain, start at step 4 captain pay).

[LifeAt90Kts]

$60,375? For an FO starting? What does it look like with per diems and whatever else added on?

[Canadaflyer46]

$60,375? For an FO starting? What does it look like with per diems and whatever else added on?

Best not to bank on per diems. Lots of guys on reserve not getting called currently. Right now around 5 years seniority in YYZ will get you off reserve, and it’s 8 years seniority for Calgary. Overtime seems to be an option many people turn to.

[truecolours]

At least there’s OPA!

[YC87DRVR]

$60,375? For an FO starting? What does it look like with per diems and whatever else added on?

Once you pay for your benefits and rrsp contribution you’ll be lucky to stuff 1000$ in your Levi’s, semi-monthly.

[digits_]

$60,375? For an FO starting? What does it look like with per diems and whatever else added on?

Once you pay for your benefits and rrsp contribution you’ll be lucky to stuff 1000$ in your Levi’s, semi-monthly.

[LifeAt90Kts]

Well, that certainly makes the decision easy, thank you for the info!

[goingmissed]

$60,375? For an FO starting? What does it look like with per diems and whatever else added on?

Best not to bank on per diems. Lots of guys on reserve not getting called currently. Right now around 5 years seniority in YYZ will get you off reserve, and it’s 8 years seniority for Calgary. Overtime seems to be an option many people turn to.

Last I checked, WJ pilots have socialized bidding and not seniority based bidding.

While it's completely possible that I'm wrong, I am fairly confident that you are talking out of your glass

[Airbrake]

$60,375? For an FO starting? What does it look like with per diems and whatever else added on?

Best not to bank on per diems. Lots of guys on reserve not getting called currently. Right now around 5 years seniority in YYZ will get you off reserve, and it’s 8 years seniority for Calgary. Overtime seems to be an option many people turn to.

Last I checked, WJ pilots have socialized bidding and not seniority based bidding.

While it's completely possible that I'm wrong, I am fairly confident that you are talking out of your glass

That is true that we don’t have seniority bidding, but holding reserve is still based off of one’s seniority. The most junior 10% can be on short call and then the next 10% to the lowest 20% can be on long call.

Having done my time through the recovery on Res I can vouch for the lack of perdiems.

[Canadaflyer46]

$60,375? For an FO starting? What does it look like with per diems and whatever else added on?

Best not to bank on per diems. Lots of guys on reserve not getting called currently. Right now around 5 years seniority in YYZ will get you off reserve, and it’s 8 years seniority for Calgary. Overtime seems to be an option many people turn to.

Last I checked, WJ pilots have socialized bidding and not seniority based bidding.

While it's completely possible that I'm wrong, I am fairly confident that you are talking out of your glass

Ignoring for one second how god damn rude you are, at what point did I bring up bidding? I mentioned how per diems are low when you’re on reserve, and how many years of seniority it CURRENTLY takes to get off reserve and hold a block, and therefore can bank on some per diems, in answer to the previous question. The socialized bidding at WJ has @#$! all to do with being on reserve.

[tango308]

If I was to apply and got hired by WS, would every Encore pilots flowing to mainline with a better hire date jump in front of me seniority wise?

I know at some point they were, then they weren't and then I lost track.

This is not a ding on the Encore pilot community which I respect greatly, I just want to know if I will be BOTL for the years to come.

Cheers,

[Canadaflyer46]

If I was to apply and got hired by WS, would every Encore pilots flowing to mainline with a better hire date jump in front of me seniority wise?

I know at some point they were, then they weren't and then I lost track.

This is not a ding on the Encore pilot community which I respect greatly, I just want to know if I will be BOTL for the years to come.

Cheers,

Yes. Under the current system every Encore pilot that flows who has a hire date before yours will be ahead of you in terms of seniority. Seniority being important for choice of base and the long awaited upgrade (9 years currently). What would be going in your favour is how slowly the Encore pilots will flow across. The latest bid only 8 were allowed to flow for 68 FO vacancies (WJ and Swoop). As captains become in shorter supply at Encore later this year that flow tap may likely be turned off again as has happened frequently in the past.
In short, I wouldn’t be too concerned by Encore guys jumping ahead of you. I’d be more concerned with the take home pay and long wait times to get off reserve.

[goingmissed]

Best not to bank on per diems. Lots of guys on reserve not getting called currently. Right now around 5 years seniority in YYZ will get you off reserve, and it’s 8 years seniority for Calgary. Overtime seems to be an option many people turn to.

Last I checked, WJ pilots have socialized bidding and not seniority based bidding.

While it's completely possible that I'm wrong, I am fairly confident that you are talking out of your glass

Ignoring for one second how god damn rude you are, at what point did I bring up bidding? I mentioned how per diems are low when you’re on reserve, and how many years of seniority it CURRENTLY takes to get off reserve and hold a block, and therefore can bank on some per diems, in answer to the previous question. The socialized bidding at WJ has @#$! all to do with being on reserve.

Your right, that was very rude of me.

I am sorry for being an ass.

Reserve is a part of the socialized bidding at Little Teal and I assumed it was the same at mainline. Again, I am sorry for my inappropriate response.

[Canadaflyer46]

Last I checked, WJ pilots have socialized bidding and not seniority based bidding.

While it's completely possible that I'm wrong, I am fairly confident that you are talking out of your glass

Ignoring for one second how god damn rude you are, at what point did I bring up bidding? I mentioned how per diems are low when you’re on reserve, and how many years of seniority it CURRENTLY takes to get off reserve and hold a block, and therefore can bank on some per diems, in answer to the previous question. The socialized bidding at WJ has @#$! all to do with being on reserve.

Your right, that was very rude of me.

I am sorry for being an ass.

Reserve is a part of the socialized bidding at Little Teal and I assumed it was the same at mainline. Again, I am sorry for my inappropriate response.

All good buddy!

[tango308]

If I was to apply and got hired by WS, would every Encore pilots flowing to mainline with a better hire date jump in front of me seniority wise?

I know at some point they were, then they weren't and then I lost track.

This is not a ding on the Encore pilot community which I respect greatly, I just want to know if I will be BOTL for the years to come.

Cheers,

Yes. Under the current system every Encore pilot that flows who has a hire date before yours will be ahead of you in terms of seniority. Seniority being important for choice of base and the long awaited upgrade (9 years currently). What would be going in your favour is how slowly the Encore pilots will flow across. The latest bid only 8 were allowed to flow for 68 FO vacancies (WJ and Swoop). As captains become in shorter supply at Encore later this year that flow tap may likely be turned off again as has happened frequently in the past.
In short, I wouldn’t be too concerned by Encore guys jumping ahead of you. I’d be more concerned with the take home pay and long wait times to get off reserve.

Thank you for input, much appreciated!

[co-joe]

...eg. complete 3 years as FO and upgrade to captain, start at step 4 captain pay).

Except upgrades are at more like 10-20 years so anyone upgrading would go at year 10 pay wouldn't they?


Out of curiosity, why isn't flow coming from Encore pilots? Why are you letting them hire off the street at all?