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Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 12:28 pm
by Navbee
Just wondering what's the current amount of hours approximately the pilots getting called for interviews at Jazz have. I would imagine with over a year without any GS, there's a good bunch of resumes coming in with 2000h+ from 703-704. Especially with the direct entry captain position open now!
Thanks and fly safe!
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:00 pm
by RegionalPilot
The ones I know who have received the call have an ATPL in their pocket as a minimum.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 11:01 pm
by co-joe
DEC at Jazz...who would have ever thought this day would come...
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 5:49 am
by CanadianPilotQc
co-joe wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:01 pm
DEC at Jazz...who would have ever thought this day would come...
The reality is there is more than enough pilots eligible for an upgrade at the moment at Jazz. To be noted that while Jazz may have numerous pilots without an ATPL, ALL Sky Regional pilots who integrated the Jazz pilot list are upgradable (SKY had an ATPL requirement to be employed there). Blaming this on the shortage of fo's is questionnable because they are hiring around 20 fo's each 3 weeks now.
Is there is something we dont know ? more planes coming?
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:09 am
by PeterParker
CanadianPilotQc wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 5:49 am
The reality is there is more than enough pilots eligible for an upgrade at the moment at Jazz. To be noted that while Jazz may have numerous pilots without an ATPL, ALL Sky Regional pilots who integrated the Jazz pilot list are upgradable (SKY had an ATPL requirement to be employed there). Blaming this on the shortage of fo's is questionnable because they are hiring around 20 fo's each 3 weeks now.
Is there is something we dont know ? more planes coming?
The toilfoil hat theorist in me suggests that it might be a way to keep union pushes for wage increases aside and get the union riled up about something else instead?
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:58 pm
by mmm..bacon
How many resumes did Jazz get for the current posting? Until those dry up, the pilot group has no leverage for pay increases..
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 6:36 am
by flyinhigh
mmm..bacon wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 3:58 pm
How many resumes did Jazz get for the current posting? Until those dry up, the pilot group has no leverage for pay increases..
Haha, good thing they are locked in for another 12 years.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:06 am
by rudder
flyinhigh wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 6:36 am
mmm..bacon wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 3:58 pm
How many resumes did Jazz get for the current posting? Until those dry up, the pilot group has no leverage for pay increases..
Haha, good thing they are locked in for another 12 years.
AC is reviewing its own entry pay.
If Jazz has to call AC and say it cannot staff planned flying due to inability to hire/upgrade (lack of qualified applicants), then Jazz entry pay will also need to be reviewed.
If Jazz upgrades are going at less than 12 months LOS, then you need to be hiring ATPL qualified pilots.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 9:33 am
by flyingcanuck
mmm..bacon wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 3:58 pm
How many resumes did Jazz get for the current posting? Until those dry up, the pilot group has no leverage for pay increases..
how many will actually decide to go over once they realize the downsides.. starting pay even left seat, end of the seniority list for a long time, etc
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:57 am
by flyinhigh
I understand the BOTL for awhile, but lets face it at Jazz a 5 year Captain is sitting pretty comfortable.
That said, while on the bottom life would be miserable if you don't live at one of the bases.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:25 am
by lidi
Do you think this “shortage of FOs “ for Jazz will continue for another year or so or is this ‘shortage’ BS.
And would they hire someone with like 750-1000 hours?
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:19 am
by rudder
lidi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:25 am
Do you think this “shortage of FOs “ for Jazz will continue for another year or so or is this ‘shortage’ BS.
And would they hire someone with like 750-1000 hours?
Eventually, yes (if you have multi time).
But current needs are ATPL for quick upgrade (unless you are coming from a college program). After that 705 experience (either seat). Then 703/704 multi time.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:04 am
by lidi
Ok thank you, so no multi time no job . Thanks for the feedback much appreciated
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:17 pm
by rudder
lidi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:04 am
Ok thank you, so no multi time no job . Thanks for the feedback much appreciated
Eventually Jazz will be back to hiring single engine flight instructors, or perhaps PC12 FO. But that won’t be 2022. Might be later in 2023. All depends on the qualifications of the applicant pool.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:19 am
by Peachtrees
I've almost 1200TT Multi Turbine with regional experience and still not a word from Jazz, don't have the ATPL/Frozen anything like it yet tho, it could be the reason why.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:12 am
by yepivedonethat
They don't have an experience requirement so much as an image or "type" that they hire as entry level folks these days.... I.E. if you look like a fresh-faced androgenously multi-racial non-binary human who still has mother's milk on their face..... You're in!
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:54 pm
by flyingcanuck
yepivedonethat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:12 am
They don't have an experience requirement so much as an image or "type" that they hire as entry level folks these days.... I.E. if you look like a fresh-faced androgenously multi-racial non-binary human who still has mother's milk on their face..... You're in!
eye roll...
Anyways, usually they look for multi and turbine time, and hopefully with some pic for a quicker upgrade. My 2c is they wont be hiring any college grads or instructors till next year unless they run out of more experienced people.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:08 pm
by rudder
flyingcanuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:54 pm
Anyways, usually they look for multi and turbine time, and hopefully with some pic for a quicker upgrade. My 2c is they wont be hiring any college grads or instructors till next year unless they run out of more experienced people.
Wrong.
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:26 pm
by lidi
rudder wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:08 pm
flyingcanuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:54 pm
Anyways, usually they look for multi and turbine time, and hopefully with some pic for a quicker upgrade. My 2c is they wont be hiring any college grads or instructors till next year unless they run out of more experienced people.
Wrong.
You mean there is hope for us 800 to 900 hour guys in the next 18 months to get on board?
Re: Jazz current real hiring hours
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:25 pm
by rudder
lidi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:26 pm
rudder wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:08 pm
flyingcanuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:54 pm
Anyways, usually they look for multi and turbine time, and hopefully with some pic for a quicker upgrade. My 2c is they wont be hiring any college grads or instructors till next year unless they run out of more experienced people.
Wrong.
You mean there is hope for us 800 to 900 hour guys in the next 18 months to get on board?
Not sure if that is the case but the stream from the aviation colleges continues.