Is the Pilot Shortage still on?

[static_invertor]

Is the pilot shortage still happening?

Or are operators still getting 100s of resumes for every advertised position?

[ellinas]

Is the pilot shortage still happening?

Or are operators still getting 100s of resumes for every advertised position?

I hear they’re getting a lot of resumes, there’s a shortage of qualified pilots . Guys like me with 600 hours doesn’t have a whole lot of opportunities I hear till my hours are about 1000 hours.

[Blueontop]

Is the pilot shortage still happening?

Or are operators still getting 100s of resumes for every advertised position?

I hear they’re getting a lot of resumes, there’s a shortage of qualified pilots . Guys like me with 600 hours doesn’t have a whole lot of opportunities I hear till my hours are about 1000 hours.

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Is the pilot shortage still happening?

Or are operators still getting 100s of resumes for every advertised position?

I hear they’re getting a lot of resumes, there’s a shortage of qualified pilots . Guys like me with 600 hours doesn’t have a whole lot of opportunities I hear till my hours are about 1000 hours.

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

It’s the MO in Canada

[lownslow]

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

I tried the martyr life, turns out it takes more coordination than one stubborn idiot.

[goingmissed]

Is the pilot shortage still happening?

Or are operators still getting 100s of resumes for every advertised position?

I hear they’re getting a lot of resumes, there’s a shortage of qualified pilots . Guys like me with 600 hours doesn’t have a whole lot of opportunities I hear till my hours are about 1000 hours.

Can't run an airline on only 600 hour pilots.

[McKinley]

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

I tried the martyr life, turns out it takes more coordination than one stubborn idiot.

I worry about the day there’s an engine failure after takeoff in a mountainous airport at night with 1500 hour captain and 200 hour pilot at the controls. It’s going to be a disaster

[702pipeliner]

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

I tried the martyr life, turns out it takes more coordination than one stubborn idiot.

I worry about the day there’s an engine failure after takeoff in a mountainous airport at night with 1500 hour captain and 200 hour pilot at the controls. It’s going to be a disaster

Very strong statement but I think the caviat is the experience of the captain. But a 1500 hour captain with previous 703 command and who had his share of the crap may not be as good as some of the 7k timers from the day. But he would fair better then someone who jumped to the airlines at the first step.

[digits_]

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

I tried the martyr life, turns out it takes more coordination than one stubborn idiot.

I worry about the day there’s an engine failure after takeoff in a mountainous airport at night with 1500 hour captain and 200 hour pilot at the controls. It’s going to be a disaster

Why?

People have been saying these things every time experience requirements go down. There has been zero evidence of that.

[iflygirl_92]

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

I tried the martyr life, turns out it takes more coordination than one stubborn idiot.

I worry about the day there’s an engine failure after takeoff in a mountainous airport at night with 1500 hour captain and 200 hour pilot at the controls. It’s going to be a disaster

I believe there are very competent <1000 pilots out there, they are trained and show proficiency to get their multi IFR. It's more about the judgement calls I concern myself with not the skill, and flying ability. It is the maturity level as a captain in decision-making and CRM that is where the big factor comes in to being a good pilot because you can train anybody can fly an airplane, it's about how you manage your situation is critical.

[Squaretail]

Is the pilot shortage still happening?

Or are operators still getting 100s of resumes for every advertised position?

Yes.

[Ash Ketchum]

No pilot shortage until the pay goes up which I haven't seen yet.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

No shortage of pilots, there’s a shortage that will work for what’s being offered

[MrWings]

No shortage of pilots, there’s a shortage that will work for what’s being offered

^THIS!

There are some highly skilled pilots out there that can do the job. They are being offered ridiculously low wages to live in an expensive market. Surprise, they are not taking the job.

Then employers complain about a pilot shortage. SMH

[schnitzel2k3]

Is the pilot shortage still happening?

Or are operators still getting 100s of resumes for every advertised position?

I hear they’re getting a lot of resumes, there’s a shortage of qualified pilots . Guys like me with 600 hours doesn’t have a whole lot of opportunities I hear till my hours are about 1000 hours.

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

If the best pilots in Canada with near 10+ years of experience think they're worth 56k-87k to start after accumulating 5-7k hours, then 30k for 1000 hrs is pretty level compensation.

Truly sad and it's 100% the reason the WAWCONS are in the dumps. Lack of competition due to massive barriers to entry, costs and small market. Only room to grow is down into LCC and ULCC territory.

Somehow AC, with their highest revenue in years still managed to post ~385M in losses? Must be getting close to contract negotiation time.

[JHR]

And that's with a 10% paycut on the cargo pilots salaries

[Bug_Stomper_01]

I hear they’re getting a lot of resumes, there’s a shortage of qualified pilots . Guys like me with 600 hours doesn’t have a whole lot of opportunities I hear till my hours are about 1000 hours.

And I bet if a regional called at 1000 hours offering 30K a year you’d sign on the spot. This is why WAWCONS will never improve here in Canada

If the best pilots in Canada with near 10+ years of experience think they're worth 56k-87k to start after accumulating 5-7k hours, then 30k for 1000 hrs is pretty level compensation.

Truly sad and it's 100% the reason the WAWCONS are in the dumps. Lack of competition due to massive barriers to entry, costs and small market. Only room to grow is down into LCC and ULCC territory.

Somehow AC, with their highest revenue in years still managed to post ~385M in losses? Must be getting close to contract negotiation time.

Who verifies these numbers published I wonder

[flyinhigh]

I tried the martyr life, turns out it takes more coordination than one stubborn idiot.

I worry about the day there’s an engine failure after takeoff in a mountainous airport at night with 1500 hour captain and 200 hour pilot at the controls. It’s going to be a disaster

Why?

People have been saying these things every time experience requirements go down. There has been zero evidence of that.

Pretty sure the colgan crash in the US is a perfect example.

[goingmissed]

I worry about the day there’s an engine failure after takeoff in a mountainous airport at night with 1500 hour captain and 200 hour pilot at the controls. It’s going to be a disaster

Why?

People have been saying these things every time experience requirements go down. There has been zero evidence of that.

Pretty sure the colgan crash in the US is a perfect example.

Tell me you know nothing about Colgan Air 3407 without saying that you know nothing about Colgan Air 3407.

[‘Bob’]

Why?

People have been saying these things every time experience requirements go down. There has been zero evidence of that.

Pretty sure the colgan crash in the US is a perfect example.

Tell me you know nothing about Colgan Air 3407 without saying that you know nothing about Colgan Air 3407.

Just because they met the 1500 hour requirements when they met their demise didn’t mean they did when they started on with Colgan after not gaining the skills of… you know… pushing forward in a stall. Something that anyone who’s flown a heavily loaded underpowered light aircraft for several hundred hours knows to do.

[schnitzel2k3]

And that's with a 10% paycut on the cargo pilots salaries

Don't worry, they ordered 2 brand new 777Fs with that paycut. Nothing says swindled like your company pivoting under your feet to capture flying you didn't want on paycuts you wished the union didn't take.

[goingmissed]

Just because they met the 1500 hour requirements when they met their demise didn’t mean they did when they started on with Colgan after not gaining the skills of… you know… pushing forward in a stall. Something that anyone who’s flown a heavily loaded underpowered light aircraft for several hundred hours knows to do.

Why not read the accident report and get back to us. Total time would not have helped with improper SOP compliance.

[digits_]

I worry about the day there’s an engine failure after takeoff in a mountainous airport at night with 1500 hour captain and 200 hour pilot at the controls. It’s going to be a disaster

Why?

People have been saying these things every time experience requirements go down. There has been zero evidence of that.

Pretty sure the colgan crash in the US is a perfect example.

Kind of weird that you would use an example of a USA 3000 hour captain and 2000 hour fo as an example as to why a Canadian 1500 hour pic with a 250 hour fo would be unsafe.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

No shortage of pilots, there’s a shortage that will work for what’s being offered

^THIS!

There are some highly skilled pilots out there that can do the job. They are being offered ridiculously low wages to live in an expensive market. Surprise, they are not taking the job.

Then employers complain about a pilot shortage. SMH

Skilled and very qualified Pilots and AME’s alike are letting their feet do their talking, doesn’t matter they know it’s cheaper to endorse low time guys and hope they’re not audited by TC or their insurance providers, let alone rolling the dice on no accidents. Canadas aviation business truly is still the Wild West, it’s sickening.