Western University mandate boosters and masks for fall 2022

[Bingo Fuel]

“ Nationally, periods of significant excess mortality have been observed from March 2020 to June 2020; from October 2020 to February 2021; and from August 2021 to November 2021. Canada experienced a new period of significant excess mortality starting in January 2022, when Omicron was the dominant variant. Excess deaths were observed across various regions of the country, including Newfoundland and Labrador, Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and British Columbia.”

Interesting…

Omicron being blamed? It was supposed to be mild (highly infectious but a lightweight compared to Delta and the original strain)

You seem to be implying that the vaccine was responsible for the spikes in excess mortality in 2021 and 2022. Do you have any citations for your claim?

Were some people harmed by the vaccine? Absolutely, I am not disputing that. What I am saying is that the number of people harmed by the vaccine was very small in comparison to those harmed by COVID, and that Canada's mortality numbers are far lower than the rest of the world (see above). Although Canada's low mortality cannot be attributed solely to the vaccine, it is likely a combination of a number of factors including (but not limited to) masks and social distancing (as shown in the CMAJ article linked below).

As you can see in the charts presented here, there is a significant correlation between excess mortality and confirmed COVID deaths in Canada:
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/25/E870

However, I find it's generally not useful to discuss deaths caused by COVID here, as commenters here are generally quick to assert that the cause of death has been falsely attributed. To that, I would say that the same would have to be true in every other country around the world.

[DonTomas]

“ Nationally, periods of significant excess mortality have been observed from March 2020 to June 2020; from October 2020 to February 2021; and from August 2021 to November 2021. Canada experienced a new period of significant excess mortality starting in January 2022, when Omicron was the dominant variant. Excess deaths were observed across various regions of the country, including Newfoundland and Labrador, Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and British Columbia.”

Interesting…

Omicron being blamed? It was supposed to be mild (highly infectious but a lightweight compared to Delta and the original strain)

You seem to be implying that the vaccine was responsible for the spikes in excess mortality in 2021 and 2022. Do you have any citations for your claim?

Were some people harmed by the vaccine? Absolutely, I am not disputing that. What I am saying is that the number of people harmed by the vaccine was very small in comparison to those harmed by COVID, and that Canada's numbers are far lower than the rest of the world (see above). Although Canada's low numbers cannot be attributed solely to the vaccine, it is likely a combination of a number of factors including (but not limited to) masks and social distancing.

And how do we know the actual true number of covid cases and deaths when they were testing incorrectly with PCR giving tons of false positives and attributing so many deaths to covid when it could have been other things?

You died on day 13 after your second shot? It was put down as unvaccinated death (cause aside)


According to many doctors, a large number of deaths could have been prevented by early treatment, but they were banned, only vaccines were allowed. People were put on ventilators, too late for most at that point. One size fits all is not a good approach to medicine, but that is my opinion and I am not a doctor. Hell even doctors that go against the narrative get called names, smeared and get their licence suspended/taken away, nobody is safe from the covid police.

Bottom line, I feel like if people want a vaccine or booster then take it, if they don’t, then don’t. We don’t need to continue this division and segregation for people that chose different, knowing now that the vaccine doesn’t stop
transmission. Covid is here to stay, like the flu. Even the CDC changed their views and put the onus on individuals to manage their health. This is getting old anyway, time to move onto monkeypox?

[TG]

I am not a doctor.

You got that right!

Now, how about the US life expectancy dropping by almost 3 years since 2019? No correlation with Covid in your mind?

The statistics show that Covid-19 accounted for 50% of the decline between 2020 and 2021.
Between 2019 and 2020, the pandemic contributed to 74% of the decline.
Unintentional injuries - a term which also includes drug overdoses - reached record highs in 2021 and contributed to 15.9% of the decline.

[WellThatAgedWell]

I am not a doctor.

You got that right!

Now, how about the US life expectancy dropping by almost 3 years since 2019? No correlation with Covid in your mind?

The statistics show that Covid-19 accounted for 50% of the decline between 2020 and 2021.
Between 2019 and 2020, the pandemic contributed to 74% of the decline.
Unintentional injuries - a term which also includes drug overdoses - reached record highs in 2021 and contributed to 15.9% of the decline.

TG you are missing the point of this thread. None of your points about mortality show that masks and vaccines change your stats. The vaccines are underwhelming performers, masks are a complete joke. And even if you thought masks and vaccines saved the day you could also see that 20 year olds going to university don't need these mandates as they are not the ones at risk.

Everyone sees problem, and then defaults to these whacky solutions as if every policy is good and effective. Lots of vaccinated masking people slated to die this winter, and I'm willing to bet westerns policies will have zero impact. The Ontario gov just dropped mandatory quarantine after testing positive. Basically treating same as flu or cold. Looks like most governments are quietly calling this over.

[DonTomas]

If the governments end this, so many will freak out. They would have no reason to live! The vax-addicted club will dissolve, and mask lovers that yell at people to mask up and follow the arrows in the supermarket aisles will have no purpose anymore . Boasting about their multiple experimental shots in their bodies won’t be a thing anymore. The 4th jabbed calling the 3rd jabbed anti vaxxer and science denier will end, and seeing the unvaccinated survive 7 waves will be devastating to them. It’s a tragedy folks! This must never end, we need to live in lockdowns, misery, 2-tier society forever. Fear-driven non-scientific narratives by Liberals, spin doctors, and media, using Karens and Kens to spread it like snot in a kindergarten room needs to continue. After all, who wants to go back to the 2019 life anyway?

The science is never to be challenged or questioned. Just follow the herd and do as you are told! No critical thinking allowed.

[WellThatAgedWell]

https://tnc.news/2022/08/27/donors-western/

LOL is this true? Donors get a free pass for the vaccine mandates at western

Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Maybe all the students should bail and ask for tuition back. Seems dangerous that they would let unbootsed donors on campus.

[TG]

TG you are missing the point of this thread. None of your points about mortality show that masks and vaccines change your stats. The vaccines are underwhelming performers, masks are a complete joke. And even if you thought masks and vaccines saved the day you could also see that 20 year olds going to university don't need these mandates as they are not the ones at risk.

Everyone sees problem, and then defaults to these whacky solutions as if every policy is good and effective. Lots of vaccinated masking people slated to die this winter, and I'm willing to bet westerns policies will have zero impact. The Ontario gov just dropped mandatory quarantine after testing positive. Basically treating same as flu or cold. Looks like most governments are quietly calling this over.

You missed that part:
The statistics show that Covid-19 accounted for 50% of the decline between 2020 and 2021.
Between 2019 and 2020, the pandemic contributed to 74% of the decline. Try to figure it out what happened there, you are so good at it.

And the other point you are missing is this virus keeps mutating in the right direction. Again I will let you and your likes (With all your PhD in Virology) Figure it out why. So yes... Most governments are calling this over, which is good.

I don't know why Canada is lagging behind. Then everything federal is lagging behind so it's not surprising really! On a positive side, they are not reacting like China who's still playing the big lockdown motto in some of its cities!


As for this university, again: Their turf, their rules. Don't like it, don't go and if everybody would do that "Those rules" would change in a heart beat now! But not if it were to be a year or two ago.

[WellThatAgedWell]

Yes TG, show us the stats, here's another one for you....

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I'll le you figure this one out.

[rigpiggy]

Who theF@#_ is David fisman?

[Inverted2]

Who theF@#_ is David fisman?

No clue either but I haven’t seen any Covid scores on the news regarding hospitalizations of pure bloods vs. the vaxxed anymore.

[WellThatAgedWell]

Who theF@#_ is David fisman?

Covid fear porn promoter and influencer from the Ontario Covid science advisory table.


OMG are you guys watching the news today? Kids are going back to school, with no masks! They are having a fit on the radio…. Zero protocols! Doesn’t Doug Ford know we are still in a deadly plandemic?

Everyone freak out! Back to school is something we should all fear!

[Inverted2]

Who theF@#_ is David fisman?

Covid fear porn promoter and influencer from the Ontario Covid science advisory table.


OMG are you guys watching the news today? Kids are going back to school, with no masks! They are having a fit on the radio…. Zero protocols! Doesn’t Doug Ford know we are still in a deadly plandemic?

Everyone freak out! Back to school is something we should all fear!

That’s the lazy ass teachers and their union who got a taste of workin’ from home. Plus the Kovid Karen’s who are programmed to live in constant fear.

[Inverted2]

Plus David is basically saying now that everyone is juiced up the cases and deaths are higher. Probably not a good way to promote the clot shots.

[WellThatAgedWell]

Plus David is basically saying now that everyone is juiced up the cases and deaths are higher. Probably not a good way to promote the clot shots.

After 85 percent vaccination we are worse off?

What is the answer!

Get more vaccinated! vaccinate harder! But sir this is my 5th booster! You need 6!

[rookiepilot]

Isn’t this the same university that can’t seem to protect its young first year girls from rapists?

But its a “safe” school.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8959196/sexu ... 2021-2022/

[DonTomas]

As long as the assaults are done with a mask, everyone is safe.

[rookiepilot]

As long as the assaults are done with a mask, everyone is safe.

This is, funnily enough, a summary of the Federal Government's view.

I'm sure my post will be trolled by the degree holding, safe spaces seeking, elite liberal thinkers among us --- SOMEONE has to keep re-electing this clown show of a government -- Lets look at the facts: (GOOGLE for references, I'm too lazy to post links)

A large number of Canadians, simply for having concerns about the COVID mandates, are disgustingly labelled by the government, have their bank accounts frozen, and outed publicly by the media, so they can face threats and intimidation. White. Albertan's. = "fair game".

Meanwhile, for YEARS -- The government is PAYING an rabid racist and anti Semite hundreds of thousands to spew the worst vile garbage without a peep from our PM. Or anyone.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/oops-w ... hony-furey

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... ll-display

Tamara Lich -- a danger to society! No bail! Deranged guy yells at a Liberal politician in Alberta -- Trudeau almost has a meltdown on TV. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudea ... -1.6568182

Yet we have a serial killer on the loose right now -- given bail despite 60! Convictions for violent offenses! -- our PM says lamely: "Its too bad these things are happening".



https://www.newsbreak.com/news/27343579 ... onvictions

Funny CBC leaves that part out.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatch ... -1.6572876

"Addressing the deadly attacks in Saskatchewan, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canadians will receive support and should 'be there for each other.'

How nice.

"This kind of violence has no place in our country,' says Trudeau"

No Sh-t sherlock. Think your words will win you votes? Find a way to blame the Conservatives yet?

I’m just blowing off steam, BTW. It’s just amusing to see so many defenders of JT as a great world leader.

[rigpiggy]

Sept. 3 Trudeau had a speech at a health care facility threatening more mandates if we don't have an 85-90% boosted rate.

[WellThatAgedWell]

Sept. 3 Trudeau had a speech at a health care facility threatening more mandates if we don't have an 85-90% boosted rate.

Well considering less than 50 percent of kids in the 5 to 11 range are vaccinated, we can just about guarantee Trudeau is bringing more mandates then?

Good thing the province is responsible for most jurisdictions. Trudeau can make the airport a shit show, he can bring back testing at airports and require boosters in federal areas, but I don’t expect provinces to follow.

[Inverted2]

Plus they allowed the unvaxed back to work so I doubt they will be making any more requirements. Everyone should say No to the dictator and watch the airlines and society as a whole shut down. I would say he will back down or finally be turfed on his ass in days if it comes to that.