If instructing paid ……
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If instructing paid ……
Hello aviators,
With all the hoopla on working conditions at all levels of piloting in Canada I’d like to ask those that enjoy flight instructing, if it paid enough or more would you rather be a flight instructor or fly 703,704,705?
Thanks in advance
With all the hoopla on working conditions at all levels of piloting in Canada I’d like to ask those that enjoy flight instructing, if it paid enough or more would you rather be a flight instructor or fly 703,704,705?
Thanks in advance
if you are on the ground I guess there is now way but to look up!
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There are plenty of people who decide to keep working at a flight school for most if not all of their career. It’s not for everyone, not by a long shot.
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The thing is, most schools are run by the cheapest people on the planet with no business sense whatsoever. Freelance on the other hand can be very relaxed and rewarding as a part time gig. I’m talking about teaching someone you know for a PPL in their 152 or a couple night ratings here and there. I know a freelance instructor out in Alberta that’s easily doing 70k a year. It can be profitable if your reputation is good.
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They're not cheap, they just choose not to give their money to you.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Lots of career instructors end up at TC. It's sort of a logical step where you still get to be involved in the teaching process, but with a stable schedule, good pay, and benefits.
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Given that you continue to turn up for whatever it is they pay you, paying you that amount is good business sense, not bad.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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I'd love to teach on the side, but it pays no where close to 705 pay, 1 WDO is a week+ of instructing. Just not worth my time sadly
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Not necessarily. It might be enough to keep class 4s showing up for a few months, but not enough to keep others interested. Turn over has a (significant?) cost, which is rarely reflected in pay raises.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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If the cost of turnover is not reflected in pay rises like you think it should be, perhaps it’s just not as expensive as you think it is.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Sometimes I think about getting my instructor rating back, then I realize that I don’t want to teach strangers and I don’t want to charge friends.
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Could be. I am merely refuting your argument that "if you don't leave your employer it's proof he has good business sense".
I don't think that's guaranteed.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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So instructing sucks ! Nobody wants to do it but has to so their lob book gets filled, sad that not only the pilot wages suck in this country but also instructing.
Terrible profession that we love !
if you are on the ground I guess there is now way but to look up!
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That isn’t my argument.
My argument is that just because he doesn’t pay you what you think you’re worth, that he must have bad business sense.
More likely it’s evidence of the opposite.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Not at all, I went into instructing on purpose and at the school I was with I typically found it very rewarding.
It actually continues to be rewarding in some cases, there was one student handed to me on the brink of failing out and I got him successfully through his CPL. Coincidentally I happen to run into him every few years (and in unexpected places) as he’s on his way to the next step in his career. It’s neat to see.
I just have other things I’d rather do with my time and other resources these days.
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Same, plus I think it's a huge PITA to get it back.
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So basically when it comes to flying as a “professional pilot flight instructor “. Sucks s?!t
if you are on the ground I guess there is now way but to look up!
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Written test, sign off and a check ride. It’s not that big a deal.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Does the written test or ride require a recommend? What’s a Class I’s time worth these days? How about renting a light single from a school for a few hours to do the ride plus whatever frivolous ‘checkout’ they want?
The local school wants ten hours(!) dual for a commercial student to switch from a Cherokee to a Katana, how many hours to sign off a stranger as good to go?