When this MOA Fails - Who needs to resign?

[EdgarAllanPIC]

This MOA has to be the biggest turd in ACPA history, which is quite a feat for this organization

Question is, who will be resigning when the results come out?

Given the total failure here:

Should all 'Yes' members of the MEC resign since they clearly have no clue about the people they are supposed to be representing?

What about the recalled YVR Base Chairs who have supported every concession in the last decade and had decided to ignore a clear vote result where 68% of the base asked them to leave?

What about the ACPA CEO who recently appeared in a company video with the VP of Flight Ops?

Anyone else?

[Alkasultzer]

In order of priority:

- MEC Chair
- Negotiations Chair
- 'Yes' Voting Base Chairs (particularly the YVR Chair)
- CEO

And find new consultants aka toss Jalmer aka lets just get to ALPA

[rudder]

Outcomes:

1. Ratified

- terms of MOA implemented
- company achieves modifications to CBA required to implement training plan associated with 2023 commercial plan
- bargaining leverage (mostly) exhausted
- normal course bargaining resumes in late 2023 to renew CBA

2. Not Ratified

Door ‘A’

- company not interested in revisiting current MOA negotiations
- status quo prevails
- bargaining leverage remains intact (subject to economic outlook/commercial plan)
- normal course bargaining resumes in late 2023 to renew CBA with possibility that company proffers early negotiation or requests new MOA negotiations (entirely discretionary on the part of the company)

Door ‘B’

- company expresses willingness to resume current MOA negotiations
- revised MOA terms achieved *or* no MOA agreement reached (see Door ‘A’)
- normal course bargaining resumes in late 2023 to renew CBA


Regardless of outcome, representation (both individual and collective) is a political decision. The primary interest of the bargaining agent and the elected/appointed representatives is to represent the employment interests of the membership. Sometimes that is achieved through the CBA. And sometimes that is achieved by factoring in employer viability. And sometimes it is a combination of the two.

The ability and opportunity for individual members to cast ballot on either agreements reached or representation is what creates accountability.

[dumpsterfire]

I assume there needs to be some resignations but does it matter?

ACPA is a total dumpsterfire and needs to be put down like an old & sick dog

Enough is enough