Pay: 20 or 21/hr. Minimum wait time: 12 months
Information current as of August 2022
Ground to flight line information
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canadian_aviator_4
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Re: Ground to flight line information
Don’t waste your time on working the ground. Get your instructor rating, gain hours, and go to a regional.
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Brownsidedown
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Do no waste your time x 2. Your hard work will not be valued. They will hire an outside applicant with ‘More’ experience before looking at the internal pilot candidates.
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dannywheels
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Re: Ground to flight line information
Could anybody give an update on the approximate time for ground-to-flight for July 2023?
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PropsGoWeee
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Re: Ground to flight line information
Hi, you’re looking at about 9-12 months of time spent working on the ground. Usually depends on operational need and whether pilots here are leaving the company.
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CaptDukeNukem
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Re: Ground to flight line information
What is this…2006? Don’t do ground work.
Nah man, get 250 and IATRA, then instruct or go to a 703 for a year or two. Get 1500TT and fire resumes to all heavy turboprop operators. Get some PIC on that then the doors will open up.
Nah man, get 250 and IATRA, then instruct or go to a 703 for a year or two. Get 1500TT and fire resumes to all heavy turboprop operators. Get some PIC on that then the doors will open up.
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flying4dollars
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Re: Ground to flight line information
Sigh....dannywheels wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:09 pm Could anybody give an update on the approximate time for ground-to-flight for July 2023?
Re: Ground to flight line information
If you are considering a position at this company, I highly recommend choosing a role in the RAMP department or any other position, while avoiding the SOCC Thunder Bay office or any flight operations-related roles. The management in the SOCC department is exceptionally poor, leading to an extremely high turnover rate among both pilots and non-pilots. Many ground-to-air pilots working in this department find the environment highly stressful and ultimately leave due to the lack of support and overwhelming pressure.
The management in the SOCC department assigns all planning responsibilities to the staff without providing proper training. Additionally, there is constant micromanaging, and when flights are delayed or canceled due to mechanical issues or poor weather conditions, the management tends to blame the staff rather than taking accountability. This creates a toxic work climate where employees feel constantly scrutinized by both management and upper management.
Numerous pilots have expressed concerns about the poor management and structure of the department, but these issues remain unaddressed. The department's high turnover rate and the immense pressure from upper management to find solutions for mechanical or weather-related problems without adequate support make it a challenging environment for new hires. Employees have reported feeling more negative about their roles and some would prefer tasks such as lifting bags over working in this department. The current list of 40 or so pilots is full, and very MINIMAL movement.
I strongly advise against applying for positions in the SOCC department. Instead, consider roles such as Ramp, Flight Attendant, or Check-in Agent.
The management in the SOCC department assigns all planning responsibilities to the staff without providing proper training. Additionally, there is constant micromanaging, and when flights are delayed or canceled due to mechanical issues or poor weather conditions, the management tends to blame the staff rather than taking accountability. This creates a toxic work climate where employees feel constantly scrutinized by both management and upper management.
Numerous pilots have expressed concerns about the poor management and structure of the department, but these issues remain unaddressed. The department's high turnover rate and the immense pressure from upper management to find solutions for mechanical or weather-related problems without adequate support make it a challenging environment for new hires. Employees have reported feeling more negative about their roles and some would prefer tasks such as lifting bags over working in this department. The current list of 40 or so pilots is full, and very MINIMAL movement.
I strongly advise against applying for positions in the SOCC department. Instead, consider roles such as Ramp, Flight Attendant, or Check-in Agent.
