Posting after NCTI

jonathan_tcu · Post by **jonathan_tcu** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:41 pm

NavCanada hosted a form over one month ago and the personnel from SHL mentioned they try hard not to send you 'far away' from home after the training institute. My question for current ATC people, what's the furthest from your hometown you have been posted?

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:54 pm

BWAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA....

Sorry. For FSS at least, that's a flat out lie, or the person for SHL was just making stuff up.

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:02 pm

You go where staff is needed...whether that's NWT or the center of the universe is purely a matter of timing.

Graham Strang · Post by **Graham Strang** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:05 pm

And how hard is it to transfer once you have been posted? If you ended up some place that you do not like and want to move home, can you apply to transfer when a spot pops up there before they would send a new trainee in? Or are you kinda stuck where you start for quite a number of years?

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:09 pm

Both ATC and FSS have a seniority bidding process, and a transfer process. The more seniority you have the more likely you get to a bigger city, for the most part.

Not sure how ATC works, but in FSS only certain sites are seniority bid sites. Those that aren't, you can request a transfer to get there. But lots of other people may have transfer requests in for anticipated openings.

jonathan_tcu · Post by **jonathan_tcu** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:16 pm

Look what I started with this topic

The FSS level IS based strictly on seniority, which is correct. The FSS here in town mans the local airspace here and CYMO (Moosonee), and constantly changing new voices. I'll save my examples for later, but perhaps my hometown is a popular starting place for newbies.

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:24 pm

jonathan_tcu wrote:The FSS level IS based strictly on seniority, which is correct.

That is NOT what I said, and is NOT true.

The level of an FSS site is based on traffic volume, complexity, and services provided.

Seniority only comes into effect when you bid to go to one of the FSS sites that is designated a Seniority Bid site. The person with the highest seniority who bids on that site when an opening comes up gets the job.

jonathan_tcu wrote:I'll save my examples for later, but perhaps my hometown is a popular starting place for newbies.

Popular doesn't come into it. You go where you're sent, out of the school.

Pygmie · Post by **Pygmie** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:58 pm

Seems there are a lot of controllers form NFLD out west, so I would say you could be pretty far away indeed.

Zatopec · Post by **Zatopec** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:50 am

I got posted less than four hours away from the city I was living in in my pre-Nav Canada life and eight from where I was born. Three stations are closer, one is about to close, one seniority bid and a FIC. Over the long run, my chances to get back home are decent.

taskforce58 · Post by **taskforce58** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:00 am

I was from the Toronto area. Got posted to Gander (IFR-Low Domestic), CT'd 6 months later and moved back.

hydro · Post by **hydro** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:02 am

I got posted to my home city. Then the station closed, and I got sent to a site just under 2 hours away from home. Then the company saw fit to send me 3000 miles away. So much for that. haha

Moral of the story, even if you get a perfect spot (unlikely) out of the school if you have less than 7 yrs in (for FSS), you might not be staying there!

hydro

jonathan_tcu · Post by **jonathan_tcu** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:00 pm

So it's really here, there and everywhere. I'm anxious to get into FSS but it's going to take a while. Just not sure about moving as far away as the northern most point on the continent. Thanks for the posting guys, it's just a large variety huh?

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:42 pm

Theres only 7 ACC's in the entire country, and I got posted to the one just 1 hour from my birth city.

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:58 pm

Zatopec wrote:I got posted less than four hours away from the city I was living in in my pre-Nav Canada life and eight from where I was born. Three stations are closer, one is about to close, one seniority bid and a FIC. Over the long run, my chances to get back home are decent.

Yea, but that's likely more of a side effect of being in Quebec. If you're on a bilingual course, your chances of going back to Quebec are almost certain. There are still, uh, "less than ideal" posts (YGW and YVP, for example), but your chances of being closer to home are alot higher.

bigfssguy · Post by **bigfssguy** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:18 am

IFR is a whole different beast than FSS or VFR. It used to be that most of the IFR guys and all disciplines were hired out of cities (eg: YEG, YVR, YVR, southern ontario etc.) and with only 7 ACC's there was an okay chance that you would get one close to home. With FSS if your hired out of the east be prepared to go west mainly because there is more staions west and more open slots to fill.

I was hired out of Winnipeg but i was from near Thunder Bay ON. I was sent to Terrace BC when there was 3 open positions in T-Bay. I think a lot of it was becasue my corse director hated me and i reciprocated the feeling but it goes to show that you can go anywhere the company needs you versus where you will be most happy.

sigmet77 · Post by **sigmet77** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:07 pm

If you apply to NC at all you better be prepared to go anyway they provide the service you are trained for. FSS have 7 years that the company can mandatory transfer you as often as they want, and there are a few horror stories out there. SHL appears to own a train that only goes East to West as they love hiring from the East but usually send them as far from home as possible. You can at least look forward to an adventure.