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Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:42 pm
by nutlord
I've heard Twizzles mentioned as an exercise, but not explained. A cursory google search didn't bring anything up either. I know that the exercise is used in RCAF Ab-Initio training, and I'd like to learn it and practice in a GA aircraft for my own proficiency. Can someone who's familiar with the exercise explain it to me, please?
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:16 pm
by TeePeeCreeper
Are you sure you don’t mean “rolling scissors”?
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:24 pm
by nutlord
TeePeeCreeper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:16 pm
Are you sure you don’t mean “rolling scissors”?
I don't think so, I've heard "Twizzles" refered to as a useful exercise to build hands and feet skills, but never elaborated on what it actually is.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:48 am
by 7ECA
Maybe it's a falling leaf?
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:03 pm
by FL030
I seem to recall it being something to do with instrument flying not aerobatics. Something about turns and math I think. Surely there is some flight instructors here that can chime in. They were called Twizzlers btw not Twizzles.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:32 pm
by DanWEC
I have absolutely no idea, but bring a flight instructor a bag of beef jerky and you'll have a friend for life.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:01 pm
by ant_321
I believe it’s a term used for just general “under the hood” flying. Timed turns, climb 500fpm at 70 knots, descend 800fpm to 3000’ and turn right 90 degrees. That kind of thing.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:50 pm
by nutlord
ant_321 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:01 pm
I believe it’s a term used for just general “under the hood” flying. Timed turns, climb 500fpm at 70 knots, descend 800fpm to 3000’ and turn right 90 degrees. That kind of thing.
Yeah, I think it was related to instrument flying too, not BFM or Aerobatics. This could be it.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:35 am
by VSF
I remember a Twizzler being a timed turn with a rate of climb. The goal being to initiate the turn and the climb, while starting your timing, and roll out of the turn at the altitude.
You'd be given a target altitude, and a target heading, and you'd have to work out the rate of climb / rate of turn to make that happen, while flying under the hood.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:41 pm
by FL030
VSF wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:35 am
I remember a Twizzler being a timed turn with a rate of climb. The goal being to initiate the turn and the climb, while starting your timing, and roll out of the turn at the altitude.
You'd be given a target altitude, and a target heading, and you'd have to work out the rate of climb / rate of turn to make that happen, while flying under the hood.
Yes! This was it exactly.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:05 pm
by nutlord
VSF wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:35 am
I remember a Twizzler being a timed turn with a rate of climb. The goal being to initiate the turn and the climb, while starting your timing, and roll out of the turn at the altitude.
You'd be given a target altitude, and a target heading, and you'd have to work out the rate of climb / rate of turn to make that happen, while flying under the hood.
Oh that's really interesting. Is there a guide with rules of thumb for that?
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:21 am
by Bede
Just basic math. Turn 180 at a 2 min turn while climbing 300' is 300 fpm.
Re: Practicing with Twizzles
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:19 am
by nutlord
Bede wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:21 am
Just basic math. Turn 180 at a 2 min turn while climbing 300' is 300 fpm.
Gotcha, I thought that you meant something more along the lines of "Turn from 180 to heading 275, roll out in 45 seconds, while climbing 300' ". Your version seems like it would cause less of a helmet fire.