Recruiting Video

[seriousflyer]

[YouTube][/YouTube]

https://youtu.be/S0YWYu3hZIk

Please watch on behalf of ALPA.

[Arnie Pye]

I almost spit out my coffee when I heard Why the MEC Chairman joined WestJet.

#relatable #tealorred #red.

[digits_]

Yikes.

Don't most airlines have contracts where you can't say openly negative stuff about your employer?

This seems quite... provocative... Probably the point. But I'm wondering if they didn't go a bit too far here if the people in the video are real westjet employees...

[Maritimer]

Yikes.

Don't most airlines have contracts where you can't say openly negative stuff about your employer?

This seems quite... provocative... Probably the point. But I'm wondering if they didn't go a bit too far here if the people in the video are real westjet employees...

They are exactly who they say they are in the video.

[digits_]

Yikes.

Don't most airlines have contracts where you can't say openly negative stuff about your employer?

This seems quite... provocative... Probably the point. But I'm wondering if they didn't go a bit too far here if the people in the video are real westjet employees...

They are exactly who they say they are in the video.

Ballsy!

Impressive!

[GIVCE!]

Well done. Go and get the contract you deserve. ALPA. unity for ALPA pilots. #setthebrake.

[ant_321]

Love it!

[fish4life]

Take notes ACPA

[cloak]

This video is tantamount to negotiating in public, if not worse, and does nothing to help the cause of the WestJet pilots. "Leaders" are expected to be rational individuals who can build rapport and gain trust in order to achieve the best results. In spite of some random anonymous cheer on the internet, how does this video accomplish that?!!

[digits_]

This video is tantamount to negotiating in public, if not worse, and does nothing to help the cause of the WestJet pilots. "Leaders" are expected to be rational individuals who can build rapport and gain trust in order to achieve the best results. In spite of some random anonymous cheer on the internet, how does this video accomplish that?!!

If the union is expecting a strike, then it's important to get the general public on your side. Movies like this could help with that. It also sends a message to management they aren't afraid to go negative or involve public opinion.

The video likely wouldn't have happened if both parties were on good speaking terms.

[Canadaflyer46]

The fact that ALPA have used the same format the company used for their own recruiting video a few weeks ago is pretty funny. Let’s not forget, this company openly lies on their job ads. E.g.‘Have control over your schedule and layovers from day 1!’ (Neglects to mention the 7 years of reserve). Good on ALPA for turning the tables. I think they showed incredible restraint and kept it very civil. Ohhh the things they could have said .

[Flight94]

The AC and Flair links at the end!

[cloak]

If the union is expecting a strike, then it's important to get the general public on your side. Movies like this could help with that. It also sends a message to management they aren't afraid to go negative or involve public opinion.

The video likely wouldn't have happened if both parties were on good speaking terms.

"More Catholic than the Pope" much?!! If the MEC's intention was to prepare the public for a strike, notwithstanding that it is unlikely to garner much sympathy from the public for a high-paying job like that, it shows negotiating in bad faith to the conciliator, and that may lose them some pilots' votes, never mind the public!

[Mach1]

They are building rapport, trust and unity among the people they represent. The pilots.

I know. It's not the old take one for the team matra but... the company has sprayed the pilots with a belt fed machine gun of concessions and I guess no one is will to take one for the team that keeps shooting you in the back.

It's time the company took one for the pilots... to rebuild all that rapport, trust and culture they like to talk about.

[TFTMB heavy]

If the union is expecting a strike, then it's important to get the general public on your side. Movies like this could help with that. It also sends a message to management they aren't afraid to go negative or involve public opinion.

The video likely wouldn't have happened if both parties were on good speaking terms.

"More Catholic than the Pope" much?!! If the MEC's intention was to prepare the public for a strike, notwithstanding that it is unlikely to garner much sympathy from the public for a high-paying job like that, it shows negotiating in bad faith to the conciliator, and that may lose them some pilots' votes, never mind the public!

The right to strike is in the labor code and exercising it is not bad faith. A union does not prepare the public for a strike, it makes the traveling public worried about one and hopes that adds pressure on the company. The most important parts of the strategy of striking are a very strong participation with a strong support from membership. Both in the 90% + range, I ideally 95-100%. And a public campaign to advertise that the employees are ready to walk out. The chance of an actual strike are minimal, the backlog of flights would be impossible to make up for. It's essentially a huge game if chicken. If you don't get the membership support you know you don't have that card and you'll get waxed at the negotiation table.

[cloak]

Perhaps, at the same time giving a strike mandate to an MEC that is all too happy to exercise it and continues on saber-rattling, even in the midst of negotiations is too risky. It's akin to giving a loaded gun to teenager who's been watching too many Western!

[Nashbandicoot]

Love it. Great work from the mec

[averageatbest]

Perhaps, at the same time giving a strike mandate to an MEC that is all too happy to exercise it and continues on saber-rattling, even in the midst of negotiations is too risky. It's akin to giving a loaded gun to teenager who's been watching too many Western!

It's not the midst of negotiations. Negotiations are over. Both sides have expressed their proposals and neither side is giving in.

That is why federal conciliation has been requested.

[cloak]

They are building rapport, trust and unity among the people they represent. The pilots.

That's great, but unless the pilots intend to negotiate amongst themselves, at some point they have to reach out to the other side too.

[cloak]

It's not the midst of negotiations. Negotiations are over. Both sides have expressed their proposals and neither side is giving in.

That is why federal conciliation has been requested.

Sure, if it makes you happy, we can go with that, however, they are all negotiations, conciliation, mediation, etc. where each side tries to prove reason and logic rests with them. Even arbitration could be considered a form of negotiation whereby each side tries to influence a neutral arbitrator.

[Mach1]

That's great, but unless the pilots intend to negotiate amongst themselves, at some point they have to reach out to the other side too.

Oh no! The employees want market rates of pay....



Management trolls are nothing if not entertaining in their hypocrisy.

[lostaviator]

Yikes.

Don't most airlines have contracts where you can't say openly negative stuff about your employer?

This seems quite... provocative... Probably the point. But I'm wondering if they didn't go a bit too far here if the people in the video are real westjet employees...

I don’t think they actually said anything negative about their employer (directly). I honestly don’t know how the scheduling system works!

They answered a few personal questions honestly and a few others about how things work behind the scenes. If the answers come off as negative, then it just means it’s a negative situation (but truthful).

I’m sure the video was well vetted by legal. All that being said, I don’t think anyone involved will find employment at another airline in their career.

[gswartz]

The 3 WJ employees in the video are specifically union reps. They would never have used regular line pilots for a video like this.
The union is protected from certain company actions through indemnities.
Similar to how the union can post "Heritage Moment" memes on Telegram without fear of retribution, but strictly advise individual members not to re-post those same memes. Union reps have certain securities/protections against the company, whereas individual employees do not.

[Fanblade]

I’m sure the video was well vetted by legal. All that being said, I don’t think anyone involved will find employment at another airline in their career.

At a non union outfit maybe I suppose. But at a company like AC it wouldn’t matter. Someone has to head the union. Everyone realizes people have a job to do at negots time. When the event is over we move on. We get back to team work. Both sides longevity depend on it.

It may sound unemotional and it is.

The most likely outcome I have seen over the years is the company inviting the individuals who were tough to deal with into management.

[rudder]

Statements of fact are neither slander nor disparagement (what is your pay? What are your work rules?)

Opinions/sentiments that are personally directed (do you like your job?) are not grounds for misconduct.

Bottom line is this is a symptom of the chasm that exists at WJ between the pilot employees and the (true) owners. It is not a recipe for success.