Bede wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:52 am
cdnavater wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:20 am
Bede wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:00 am
What makes you think that WJ NB compensation is less than AC?
Oh, I’m sorry can you show me how is isn’t?
I was under the impression you were paid less than AC, if you guys get a big raise with this negotiation, will you still be competitive?
The AC cargo department is on wide bodies so probably not really comparing apples to apples anyway.
AC has slightly higher hourly rates, a pension (10.5%) and paid disability. WJ has 20% savings plan (yes we can debate this forever, but 20% is 20%), stock option replacement ($10298 capt, $73xx for FO), vacation of 4.5hr/day vs 2.83hr/day. At one point WJ also had better schedules on average, paid commuting, but that's gone the way of the dodo bird.
WB, AC is way more. NB, not so much.
The vacation comparison is apples to oranges, and misleading IMHO.
AC vacation is based on 7 days per week. So a pilot with 10 years of service gets 38 days (4 weeks plus 10 stats) all paid at 2:55 per day. This works out to 111 hours of vacation pay in the year. A pilot with 25 years gets an extra week, this is the maximum allotment which is 131 hours of pay.
Reading the WJ contract (I don't work there), WJ vacation is based on 5 paid days per week, with two days unpaid tacked on to each 'vacation block'. A pilot with 10 years gets 4 blocks, which is 20 days paid at 4:30 per day. That's 90 hours of vacation pay in the year. This is the maximum which is reached after 7 YOS.
If you take only one week of vacation at AC it messes up your month because of the bidding system, you only get 21 hours of credit and usually need to work a lot of unproductive days for the rest of the month depending on fleet type and seniority because of the bidding system. Two weeks or more of vacation in a month seems to work better.
No idea how vacation affects your monthly schedule at WJ.