FAA Proposes 25 hour CVR recording.

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FAA Proposes 25 hour CVR recording.

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https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/faa- ... index.html

The Federal Aviation Administration is working to establish a requirement that aircraft have longer duration cockpit voice recorders.

The announcement comes after the agency held an emergency “safety summit” Wednesday following a series of near-collisions on US runways.

The FAA said it is “initiating rulemaking that will require Cockpit Voice Recorders to capture 25 hours of information.” Currently, the cockpit voice recorder, which is one of two so-called “black boxes” on an aircraft, captures only the most recent two hours of sound in the cockpit.

The rulemaking process can take multiple years, and the agency added it would welcome intervention from Congress on the matter. The FAA has previously said it did not pursue regulations in this area because it had other priorities.

US airplane near misses keep coming. Now officials are talking about averting 'catastrophic' incidents

The National Transportation Safety Board has said cockpit audio recordings are not available in all of the runway incursion incidents it is investigating because more than two hours passed before the recordings could be retrieved.

The NTSB recommended the 25-hour standard after a 2017 incident where an airliner attempted to land on a runway occupied by several other aircraft at San Francisco International Airport. It said in its 2018 report that the lack of cockpit recordings hampered its investigation.

The board has also identified more than a dozen other events since 2003 where investigators have been unable to listen to key audio because of the limited memory of the recorders.

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Multiple Union sources and AvCanada posters decried the proposed changes.

“Keep the government out of our cockpits — Our Privacy to screw up without interference is enshrined in the Constitution”, one of them raged…. :lol:
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Pretty soon we'll have to wear body cams like the police do.
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Guess it depends on which models of recorder are in the planes you operate. When I worked on updating flight recorder hardware back in the 90's, the models we were installing used flash memory instead of metal tape, and were able to record 32 hours. I'm sure the more recent equipment can handle a lot more, not sure you can even buy flash memory components as small as the ones we were using back then.
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co-joe wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:48 pm Pretty soon we'll have to wear body cams like the police do.
So….you’re saying CVR’s shouldn’t exist?
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Oh great another “new” regulation for the rest of us due to a AC oppsie.
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rookiepilot wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:03 pm
co-joe wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:48 pm Pretty soon we'll have to wear body cams like the police do.
So….you’re saying CVR’s shouldn’t exist?
I think there is a balance, I'm not sure what the right amount is though. Look at train conductors? Don't think it's fair to have cameras in the cab.
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