Is JerryRig Right?

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Is JerryRig right?

Yes, he sees what most people don't.
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His ideas seem plausible, but I'm not sure.
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He is a f***ing nut case.
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Re: Is JerryRig Right?

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flyer 1492 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:23 pm People have the ability do their own homework and choose if they believe someone's comments or not.
You cannot compare "Do their own homework" and years of studies and experience in a particular field.
Not going to start this debate again.
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Re: Is JerryRig Right?

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kgb531 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:20 pm When it comes to virology/immunology, the layperson does not possess the requisite educational background, experience and mental capacity to understand the subject matter let alone the "ability to do their own homework". Thinking they do in the first place is the root of most of the problem. Those who do are literally the poster children for Dunning-Kruger.
The average person does not understand the physics of lift, procedures we follow, or the regulations we are governed by, but they still trust us, airline pilots, to get them to their destination safely.

I trust doctors to give me their service safely... in this case it is their recommendation of getting the vaccine.
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Please don't confuse high school educated plane drivers for medical specialists.
Passengers only place trust in said front seat occupants because of the higher level of trust in the engineers who designed the aircraft and the trade school educated who maintain them.

A GP is a mere family physician. They defer to the consensus of actual experts.

averageatbest wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:02 pm
kgb531 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:20 pm When it comes to virology/immunology, the layperson does not possess the requisite educational background, experience and mental capacity to understand the subject matter let alone the "ability to do their own homework". Thinking they do in the first place is the root of most of the problem. Those who do are literally the poster children for Dunning-Kruger.
The average person does not understand the physics of lift, procedures we follow, or the regulations we are governed by, but they still trust us, airline pilots, to get them to their destination safely.

I trust doctors to give me their service safely... in this case it is their recommendation of getting the vaccine.
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Re: Is JerryRig Right?

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I remember that woman because she is the only Albertan who has died due to an adverse reaction.
I remember her because out of 4.4M Albertans and 10M doses given, she was the only one who died.

rando wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:35 pm https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/albe ... id-vaccine

Remember when this woman died from taking the AZ vaccine. Even her daughter drank the koolaid and defended the drug company. Many said “since she died from the vaccine, that means she would have died from Covid anyways”. Complete brainwashing and not factual. The only way for these people is to defend every vaccine to the death and deny any possibility that vaccines have risk. Dunning-Kruger

Have to wonder if the vaccine was mandated by her employer. Did she take the vaccine after a discussion of the risks and benefits with her doctor? Or did she take the vax to keep a pay cheque and told she needs to take it to keep her colleagues safe?

Do you think her daughter was vaccine exempt at her work? Do you think she was able to travel on a plane without it? After watching your mother die from the vaccine, was she told she needs her vax pass to have normal life freedoms? Would it be reasonable for a 19 year old to not want to take the risk of getting the vax?
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kgb531 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:17 pm I remember that woman because she is the only Albertan who has died due to an adverse reaction.
I remember her because out of 4.4M Albertans and 10M doses given, she was the only one who died.

rando wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:35 pm https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/albe ... id-vaccine

Remember when this woman died from taking the AZ vaccine. Even her daughter drank the koolaid and defended the drug company. Many said “since she died from the vaccine, that means she would have died from Covid anyways”. Complete brainwashing and not factual. The only way for these people is to defend every vaccine to the death and deny any possibility that vaccines have risk. Dunning-Kruger

Have to wonder if the vaccine was mandated by her employer. Did she take the vaccine after a discussion of the risks and benefits with her doctor? Or did she take the vax to keep a pay cheque and told she needs to take it to keep her colleagues safe?

Do you think her daughter was vaccine exempt at her work? Do you think she was able to travel on a plane without it? After watching your mother die from the vaccine, was she told she needs her vax pass to have normal life freedoms? Would it be reasonable for a 19 year old to not want to take the risk of getting the vax?
4.4 million Albertans and took AZ?!

Wow, you so smrt! Thanks for that!
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Sorry. Didn't realize you needed a breakdown of each manufacturer. She is/was 1 of 315K Albertans and 1 of 2.8M in Canada who received Covishield.
Given that 75% of Canadian adults had a vaccination prior to any government or employer mandate, odds are she wasn't.
rando wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:53 pm
kgb531 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:17 pm I remember that woman because she is the only Albertan who has died due to an adverse reaction.
I remember her because out of 4.4M Albertans and 10M doses given, she was the only one who died.

rando wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:35 pm https://globalnews.ca/news/7835081/albe ... id-vaccine

Remember when this woman died from taking the AZ vaccine. Even her daughter drank the koolaid and defended the drug company. Many said “since she died from the vaccine, that means she would have died from Covid anyways”. Complete brainwashing and not factual. The only way for these people is to defend every vaccine to the death and deny any possibility that vaccines have risk. Dunning-Kruger

Have to wonder if the vaccine was mandated by her employer. Did she take the vaccine after a discussion of the risks and benefits with her doctor? Or did she take the vax to keep a pay cheque and told she needs to take it to keep her colleagues safe?

Do you think her daughter was vaccine exempt at her work? Do you think she was able to travel on a plane without it? After watching your mother die from the vaccine, was she told she needs her vax pass to have normal life freedoms? Would it be reasonable for a 19 year old to not want to take the risk of getting the vax?
4.4 million Albertans and took AZ?!

Wow, you so smrt! Thanks for that!
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Re: Is JerryRig Right?

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kgb531 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:05 pm Sorry. Didn't realize you needed a breakdown of each manufacturer. She is/was 1 of 315K Albertans and 1 of 2.8M in Canada who received Covishield.
Given that 75% of Canadian adults had a vaccination prior to any government or employer mandate, odds are she wasn't.
rando wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:53 pm
kgb531 wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:17 pm I remember that woman because she is the only Albertan who has died due to an adverse reaction.
I remember her because out of 4.4M Albertans and 10M doses given, she was the only one who died.


4.4 million Albertans and took AZ?!

Wow, you so smrt! Thanks for that!
25% isn't exactly unlikely. I see your point but I wouldnt bet on those odds.
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Re: Is JerryRig Right?

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rookiepilot wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:16 pm I don't agree with most of his posts, but I would strongly be against having him blocked from posting.

That is exactly the direction we are headed here in Canada -- Don't agree with someone, cancel them. Today, Covid. Tomorrow, who knows?

At the rate we are going, it will soon be a criminal offense to express a view different from the government one. And I don't mean on Covid. It's a dangerous direction.

You can see it coming. Let's not be a part of that.

Well said. Slippery slopes are not society's friend.
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averageatbest wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:19 pm What do you think? Is it time for JerryRig to have his posting rights revoked or is he our knight in shining armour?
So you would stifle free speech? Regardless of whether you like it or not, if you cut someone like JR, it wont be long until they come to stifle you.
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Re: Is JerryRig Right?

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rigpiggy wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:54 am
averageatbest wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:19 pm What do you think? Is it time for JerryRig to have his posting rights revoked or is he our knight in shining armour?
So you would stifle free speech? Regardless of whether you like it or not, if you cut someone like JR, it wont be long until they come to stifle you.
Every once in a while when I was a kiddo saying or doing pretty stupid stuff, shock! Horror! My mom would slap me! :lol:
Which would literally shut me up and put me back into reality.

Would that count at loosing free speech!?
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Re: Is JerryRig Right?

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TG wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:47 am
rigpiggy wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:54 am
averageatbest wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:19 pm What do you think? Is it time for JerryRig to have his posting rights revoked or is he our knight in shining armour?
So you would stifle free speech? Regardless of whether you like it or not, if you cut someone like JR, it wont be long until they come to stifle you.
Every once in a while when I was a kiddo saying or doing pretty stupid stuff, shock! Horror! My mom would slap me! :lol:
Which would literally shut me up and put me back into reality.

Would that count at loosing free speech!?
Absolutely. Kids a fully smart enough and experienced enough that they should be able to do anything and say anything. Especially when it comes to making important life altering permenant decisions.

I mean, the only things we don't let kids do/decide are driving, flying, voting, getting a tattoo, being a judge, lawyer, doctor, engineer, police officer, own a gun, rent a tool, get a credit card, get a piercing, drink, buy a house, take posession of a trust....

wait a second....
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khedrei wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:51 am Absolutely. Kids a fully smart enough and experienced enough that they should be able to do anything and say anything. Especially when it comes to making important life altering permenant decisions.

I mean, the only things we don't let kids do/decide are driving, flying, voting, getting a tattoo, being a judge, lawyer, doctor, engineer, police officer, own a gun, rent a tool, get a credit card, get a piercing, drink, buy a house, take posession of a trust....

wait a second....
I was the kids that those decision making rules were based on. Definitely would have shot my eye out, drank excessively and got too many stupid tattoos. I'd also add getting married and having kids to those rules. Hell, I wasn't smart enough for all of that until I was into my 30s. Even then, my decision making was questionable.
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broken_slinky wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:04 pm
khedrei wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:51 am Absolutely. Kids a fully smart enough and experienced enough that they should be able to do anything and say anything. Especially when it comes to making important life altering permenant decisions.

I mean, the only things we don't let kids do/decide are driving, flying, voting, getting a tattoo, being a judge, lawyer, doctor, engineer, police officer, own a gun, rent a tool, get a credit card, get a piercing, drink, buy a house, take posession of a trust....

wait a second....
I was the kids that those decision making rules were based on. Definitely would have shot my eye out, drank excessively and got too many stupid tattoos. I'd also add getting married and having kids to those rules. Hell, I wasn't smart enough for all of that until I was into my 30s. Even then, my decision making was questionable.

How old should you have to be to take testosterone and transition to another gender?
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rando wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:16 pm
broken_slinky wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:04 pm
khedrei wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:51 am Absolutely. Kids a fully smart enough and experienced enough that they should be able to do anything and say anything. Especially when it comes to making important life altering permenant decisions.

I mean, the only things we don't let kids do/decide are driving, flying, voting, getting a tattoo, being a judge, lawyer, doctor, engineer, police officer, own a gun, rent a tool, get a credit card, get a piercing, drink, buy a house, take posession of a trust....

wait a second....
I was the kids that those decision making rules were based on. Definitely would have shot my eye out, drank excessively and got too many stupid tattoos. I'd also add getting married and having kids to those rules. Hell, I wasn't smart enough for all of that until I was into my 30s. Even then, my decision making was questionable.

How old should you have to be to take testosterone and transition to another gender?
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Not that its scientific, but now that 33% of the people who answered dont think JerryRig is nuts (thats not a small number), will the creator of this sick thread apologize for trying to censor/bully another member on this forum and admit they were wrong?

If I had to bet, this person will do the same thing as everyone else who played a part in getting us into this mess. Double down.
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khedrei wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:58 pm Not that its scientific, but now that 33% of the people who answered dont think JerryRig is nuts (thats not a small number), will the creator of this sick thread apologize for trying to censor/bully another member on this forum and admit they were wrong?

If I had to bet, this person will do the same thing as everyone else who played a part in getting us into this mess. Double down.
1 vote is probably JerryRig himself, 1 his alias, 1 a troll :mrgreen:

khedrei wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:51 am
I mean, the only things we don't let kids do/decide are driving, flying, voting, getting a tattoo, being a judge, lawyer, doctor, engineer, police officer, own a gun, rent a tool, get a credit card, get a piercing, drink, buy a house, take posession of a trust....

wait a second....
Not much difference between kids and irrational people then.
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TG wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:00 pm
khedrei wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:58 pm Not that its scientific, but now that 33% of the people who answered dont think JerryRig is nuts (thats not a small number), will the creator of this sick thread apologize for trying to censor/bully another member on this forum and admit they were wrong?

If I had to bet, this person will do the same thing as everyone else who played a part in getting us into this mess. Double down.
1 vote is probably JerryRig himself, 1 his alias, 1 a troll :mrgreen:

khedrei wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:51 am
I mean, the only things we don't let kids do/decide are driving, flying, voting, getting a tattoo, being a judge, lawyer, doctor, engineer, police officer, own a gun, rent a tool, get a credit card, get a piercing, drink, buy a house, take posession of a trust....

wait a second....
Not much difference between kids and irrational people then.
Huh? I think you missed something there...
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rigpiggy wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:54 am
averageatbest wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:19 pm What do you think? Is it time for JerryRig to have his posting rights revoked or is he our knight in shining armour?
So you would stifle free speech? Regardless of whether you like it or not, if you cut someone like JR, it wont be long until they come to stifle you.
Free speech does not mean having the right to say whatever you want whenever you want. You're conflating free speech with not having a filter.
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averageatbest wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:01 pm
rigpiggy wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:54 am
averageatbest wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:19 pm What do you think? Is it time for JerryRig to have his posting rights revoked or is he our knight in shining armour?
So you would stifle free speech? Regardless of whether you like it or not, if you cut someone like JR, it wont be long until they come to stifle you.
Free speech does not mean having the right to say whatever you want whenever you want. You're conflating free speech with not having a filter.
So you do want to stifle free speech if YOU don't like it.

Got it. Thanks for clarifying
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