holds and timings

[proplever]

If you go outbound for 1 min and, inbound for 30 seconds, what would your correction be for your next outbound?
Have had several answers 1:15, 1:30, 2:00

[Always Moving]

It should be 2 minutes....
BUT
I would not go any more than 1:45 or even 1:30 because big corrections are NEVER good

[codfish]

half of your excess time works well.

[Flyin' Hack]

You have a headwind inbound.

Double the difference and add if you're ahead of schedule; and
half the difference and subtract if you're more than a minute inbound.

so 2 minutes - but also take into account, were you exact on your timings or not. If you don't think you were, then I'd agree, don't make big corrections.

Am I right?

[Right Seat Captain]

You have a headwind inbound.

Um, last time I checked, if your time inbound is SHORTER than your time outbound, you would have a tailwind inbound...probably just a typo anyways.

Theoretically, since for every minute you go out, you have 30 seconds inbound, and you want 1 minute inbound, you'd have to go outbound for 2 minutes.

But that doesn't take into account the turn. As you are turning inbound, which takes 1 minute at rate one, the wind is pushing you inbound already. That's why you wouldn't want such a large correction. I would try like 1:30 or 1:45.

[Panama Jack]

Without knowing any better, my response would be 1 minute, 30 seconds outbound on the next pass.

OK, so what is the correct answer???

[Yoyoma]

The correct answer is:

a-Don't worry about it, ATC will call you before the second spin around!
b-My FMS should know, I don't need to tell him...!
c-Calculate it using this simple fomula:
d-All of the above

[enroute]

I like Yoyoma's answer the best, always pick the longest answer!!

But seriously, I would have to agree with PJ on this one. In my training we were taught to

"Take what you need, and give back only half" so 1:30
Practice, practice, practice Good Luck


It's similar but different to what your wife does when she decides she wants a divorce.

[CPS1]

The answer is 7.7xthe square root of your tire pressure...no wait that something else...double the altitude you need to descend convert it to minutes and add a couple for fudge factor, no that's not it...
1.23 x the square root of your altitude AGL, there I did it ! No...
I'll just try 2 minutes and see what happens...
Of course the best idea is to slow down as soon as you get the hold clearance, makes no sense to race to the hold. I've found that if you have a transport Canada official on your flight, reported VFR weather will most certainly turn to IFR and You will get a hold on each leg of your journey. There must be a name for this phenomena.

[Yoyoma]

The answer is 7.7xthe square root of your tire pressure...no wait that something else...double the altitude you need to descend convert it to minutes and add a couple for fudge factor, no that's not it...
1.23 x the square root of your altitude AGL, there I did it ! No...
I'll just try 2 minutes and see what happens...
Of course the best idea is to slow down as soon as you get the hold clearance, makes no sense to race to the hold. I've found that if you have a transport Canada official on your flight, reported VFR weather will most certainly turn to IFR and You will get a hold on each leg of your journey. There must be a name for this phenomena.

Typical pilot attitude...You give them the simple way to solve the problem ( a simple formula) and they have to come up with their own sh@t...

[ahramin]

Got to love pilots who can't do math.

[Panama Jack]

Or the other easy solution is to ask for DME leg lengths (the longer the better) KISS.