Whats up with the hiring here???

3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:10 am

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bobcaygeon · Post by **bobcaygeon** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:20 am

Don't fret buddy, the Jazz dudes aren't getting any priority on hiring . I can count about a dozen that I know of, that interviewed in March/April that haven't even been called for a medical but no PFO. I know of a couple of Jazz guys that waited 6 months for a course date. There's usually only 2-3 Jazz out of 10-18 per class.

3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:24 am

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KAG · Post by **KAG** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:27 am

3000JetPIC wrote: Surely they want to hire the best!
...... Any incite?

Maybe they wanted someone with alittle more...humility.

Just kidding, bit of a pisser ain't it.

Why not just saty in the states?

3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:27 am

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3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:31 am

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prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:02 am

It won't be long... soon enough someone at ACE will say they don't have the cash to pay pensions and somehow get Ottawa onside... it is only a matter of time...

TFE731 · Post by **TFE731** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:34 pm

prop2jet wrote:It won't be long... soon enough someone at ACE will say they don't have the cash to pay pensions and somehow get Ottawa onside... it is only a matter of time...

Just curious what you know that may support this theory

TFE731 · Post by **TFE731** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:44 pm

3000JetPIC wrote:I have a friend who is an instructor on the embraer. He says they are hiring alot of low low time guys. Whats up with that? I am happy for them, but what about the rest of us that have the experience. This place is so unlike the US hiring practices. I need to be edumacated lol

Recent classes have had a grand range of diversity from 2100hr/25yr old pilots to 11000hrs/45yr old pilots and everything in between including King Air & Twin Otter drivers, military, and 727, 767, and 747 pilots. I wouldn't say there are any more younger new hires than more experienced ones. Not to mention that a lot of the younger crowd with less time have high quality type of time in their books as well.

I wish you best of luck though.

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:05 pm

No particular source, just a sign of the times we live in. Call me a cynic but I really don't think the pension plan is so sacred that it cannot be touched - that is what our counterparts south of the border are quickly finding out and I would not put it past corporations and the government here in this country to do the same.

flystraightin · Post by **flystraightin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:45 am

3000JetPIC,

do you mind me asking which airline you're coming from?

Im 17, junior in HS with dual citizenship (lived in PHX for 6yrs) and looking into flying for a career. Ive begun working on my PPL in Canada at a local FBO in Victoria.

You seem like you'd have a good sense of both countries..what are the major differences in the industry (that you've seen so far) and what do you think the future looks like? obviously you think it'd be better here, i assume, or else you wouldn't have moved.

feel free to PM me

thanks,

fsi

tallun · Post by **tallun** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:01 am

Off topic but to answer your question------ Ace is one of companies leading pack(Canada) in pension deficits---- 2.5 bilion.

Globe and Mail last week--- but totally irrelavent to why we hire the way we do

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:34 am

3000JetPIC

I am not sure why your buddy says that AC is hiring Cessna Drivers. The last few guys I had for training were ex 727 Captains, Military, and WestJet.

B-777 · Post by **B-777** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:40 am

I looked at the list of new hired this morning...
I know of half a dozen, who have 5000/6000 hrs+, above 12500 Multi PIC,
and some JEt time....??
not sure where your cessna drivers are?

it is makes you feel better... they are looking for keeners no complainers...

3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:43 am

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3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:51 am

Hey B777, Not saying the guys hired dont deserve to be there, and I am very excited for those who are hired. I just know a handfull of good experienced airline guys like myself from the US, that are morivated, non complainers, good guys who are getting overlooked. Anyhow, sorry if you got the wrong idea from my posts. J

babybus · Post by **babybus** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:02 am

[/quote]:no desire to be a 10 year fo anywhere

Sounds like a case of CAPTAINITIS to me.
So you must be a captain?I recommend you don't repeat that when and IF you get here because a lot of guys you will fly with spent 10 years as SO's and many waited 15 years for their upgrade.
Furthermore that kind of attitude leads me to believe you won't learn much in the right seat.....
I don't mean to pick on you but in the 7 years I've been at AC I have learned that the company will bend over backwards to help a struggling new-hire-probation pilot,they will move mountains.....if you have a good attitude.The ones that tend to not make it past the first year are the ones that believe that they are owed something (no matter how good you are),
and that think that they are wasting their time in the right seat.
And usually they pick up on that in the interview....

3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:21 am

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barefootpilot · Post by **barefootpilot** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:14 am

They have set a standard of 3000hrs min. And that would have to be pretty time. Most guys on course these days have an average of 6000.

Traf · Post by **Traf** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:58 am

3000jetPic, have you told them how good you are yet? Maybe that is what is lacking! Maybe youy should put in 4 inch tall black letters, JET CAPTAIN!!! HIRE ME!!!

As for the cessna pilots, it ain't happening. I suspect this is just a case of "why won't they hire me, I am a jet god" itis.

3000JetPIC · Post by **3000JetPIC** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:32 am

Traf wrote:3000jetPic, have you told them how good you are yet? Maybe that is what is lacking! Maybe youy should put in 4 inch tall black letters, JET CAPTAIN!!! HIRE ME!!!

As for the cessna pilots, it ain't happening. I suspect this is just a case of "why won't they hire me, I am a jet god" itis.

This is why I deleted my posts. Intelligent debate is rare, especially with people like you. I am happy for all that were hired no matter what the background. Heck I came from a major who hired minorities and woman with little to no experience at all. I would have taken the same offer. I was just curious to why some have heard back sooner then others. I dont think Jet Pic or turbo prop pic makes you a better pilot. I do know there are some really qualified good guys on here getting call backs for the medical then not hearing anything for months. I dont give a rats ass about being a captain expt for the fact that you make more money, and that you can set the tone in the flight deck. I am as laid back as they come as a Captain or FO. I dont tell the Fo's how to do their job, as far as I am concerned we are equals. So dont go on about how this is a Captain thing, or not being hired itis. Its not. Just trying to figure out whats going on. There is no ego here, or jet god mentality here. However I do have a resume filled with good airline experience along with good references from alot of Captains and FIRST OFFICERS that I have flown with. I am taking it that you have been hired. Congrats

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:12 pm

The reason you're not getting a call is because AC has 4000 resume's on file with everything between 1500 and 20000 hrs. Hiring 400 makes it only a one in ten chance you're hired.

Front. · Post by **Front.** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:40 pm

Recent classes have had a grand range of diversity from 2100hr/25yr old pilots to 11000hrs/45yr

So it wouldn't hurt to send out resume's then by the looks of how air canada chooses to hire. Cause in my view, 25 is a bit too young for A320 operations and what not? Considering most people here are on about claiming different types of experience, I am not sure how many different types of experiences you may be claiming to satisfy an airline like Air Canada at 25.

So with that in mind, is it worth sendin out a resume with low time experience, or should you seriously wait and make a better impression?

How does it work

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:42 pm

Ac keeps your resumes on file. The bigger the file, the better, at least thats what I've always been told.

It can't hurt.

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:03 pm

eemami:
Don't judge someones experience by their age. Depending on when you start, a lot can happen in the few years that you are learning the ropes. Age alone does not determine ones competence, experience or ability.

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