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Going in for medical today

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eesh, i am scared lol.

What do you think?

5'10" at 225 lbs of weight, my cholestrole levels are fine, no issues with hemoglobin, potassium level is normal, got no diabetes.

However, something is worrying me, i don't know what? should I worry?

It's a Class 1 medical.

Bah i got it in like 3 hours, i probably won't pass due to having high blood pressure from the nervousness.

Wish me luck :oops:
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If you're under 40 and have no current health problems then I wouldn't even worry about it! I was a little apprehensive when I went for my first medical too, more so because I've had ear problems all my life. It turned out that my worrying was for nothing and that for the most part my hearing was above average.

That being said, you should start taking your health a little more seriously now that you depend on a valid medical yearly (bi-yearly after 40). It can be easy to keep it current when you're young, but as you get older, a poor diet, lack of exercise, smoking or drinking (heavily) can take its toll.
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ahh okey :) well i signed up at fitness world to start biking on those electronig bikes HAHA :lol:
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alright, so i just came back from medical - I am not sure if i quite passed it. lol any body has any hints? i'll tell you what the doctor said.

Firstly, during the ECG my heart rate was high cause i was just too nervous, and then the doctor came in and asked me how are you, i said 'fine' just a bit nervous cause it's my first time. He had a smile on his face saying haha i see that.

Then he did all the checks and after checking he said, well you're fine, and i asked did i pass it, he said yeah, only that i need to see your audio gram first. " i am going for my audio gram on wednesday "

Now when i went in the front to pay, I asked her when I would receieve my certificate, would i come and pick it up at the front desk, or would it be mailed home. She wasn't too clear about it and she mentioned that the doc had to look over my ecg.

Now i was nervous in my ecg and i know that BP and HR was high at the time. Normally though i am at 87 with 140 over 80.

So my question is, the doctor said i am fine after the examination, then why would he want to look at the ecg, could the ecg fail my exam even though he said i am fine? cause i calmed down when he listned to my heart and told me to take deep breaths.

Audiogram i should be fine, so i am kind of iffy if i actually passed it.

Then second question is, will i recieve the medical certificate via mail, how will i know if i passed it, how will i know if i didn't pass it.

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Dont be nervous!!! Im sure your fine - I think you'd know if you where unhealthy...
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eemami wrote: Then second question is, will i recieve the medical certificate via mail, how will i know if i passed it, how will i know if i didn't pass it.
2 weeks - 4 months(yes, I've seen 4, if you're first on the list just after they've finished a batch you wait till they do another batch).

Anyways, after expired time you'll either receive the certificate in the mail

or a letter from TC stating that they could not give you a medical, and if you would like to discuss it with the Head Doctor who signs you off(supposedly, 2nd hand info). Also some ECG's get denied(? not accepted?) and you'll need to come back in to do it again.

Sorry to much blah blah... TC will mail you a certificate, lol, unless your doctor who will tell the secretary to mail it in doesn't do it.
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well the doc knows that i was nervous, but will the people approving the ECG at Transport Canada know that? i m scared that the ECG will mess me over.
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Don't worry, you'll be okay, are you starting flight training already???
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well i bought my montair ground school kit, and i am starting this summer... the kit was 250 bucks.

So i'll be fine?
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Post by ahramin »

Don't mean to be a dick here but if you are this nervous about a non-event that you can't control should you really be wanting to fly for a living? There are much more nervous things involved in flying than sitting through a medical. This job isn't for everyone and it is rather thankless.

Oh and good luck with the medical.
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well i am just worried about my ECG that's pretty much it. The rest wen't fine and i am not too worried at all - i am just not clear on what the meaning behind "you are fine" and "we have to look at your ecg" is... lol
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I think the doctor looks at everyone's ECG when he does the medical. If he didn't look at it, then what's the point of doing it? The guy that actually does the ECG is usually just a technician and can't really say if you're good to go or not. I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Maybe call the doc in a few days once he's had a chance to look at the ECG. Good luck.
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well i mean he smiled when i said i am a bit nervous cause it's my first time, and after all the other tests he said with a smile on his face, you're fine. So i really don't know why he would say that when the secretary said he has to look at the ecg. funny thing though that the secretary said that the doctor said i was fine.

so it was a bit retarded, it felt like something was being miscommunicated.
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Post by Siddley Hawker »

The thing to remember with medicals is :

D E F P O T E C :D

Oh, and the really fine print on the bottom reads 'Acme Eye Chart Company, Chicago IL. 72960.'
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okey i don't get it :P explain haha
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Siddley Hawker wrote:The thing to remember with medicals is :

D E F P O T E C :D

Oh, and the really fine print on the bottom reads 'Acme Eye Chart Company, Chicago IL. 72960.'

Hmmm, I thought mine read "Printed in Taiwan"

Nice hint about the D E F thing though...gonna have to remember that.

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Now the trick is to cover *both* eyes when he asks you to read the 20/20 line
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Mmmeeeennnnnn!

Soooo, how're yer nuts?
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Post by Louis »

Hello,

When I did my first medical I was really worried about my ECG once I had the results as it had the words "sinus arrhythmia" on it.

I looked into it and it turns out that some people's heart rate varies with breathing, accelerating while inhaling and decelerating while exhaling.

So even if there are remarks like these on your ECG results, don't panic, it might be a really benign thing that won't prevent you from getting a medical. It didn't in my case.

Goodbye, and keep us updated,

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Post by ei ei owe »

I'm most worried about 747SP's choice of training at Montair. Aren't there better schools at that airport? Careful how you log time with those Montair guys or you might be in for a surprise later down the road.
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Post by North Shore »

Are we being trolled here?
5'10" and 225 = Fat Ba$tard in my books... Also, resting heart rate of 87?? Should be more like the mid 60's to 70's, no? BP: 120/80 is standard...
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lol thanks :) Always appreciate the very kind comments.

As far as I know, 225 lbs is also distributed in big aspect between lean and body fat. If you were to see me, you would say that I am 200 lbs tops.

For heaven's sake, Todd Bertuzzi is 245 lbs, you consider him fat too ? 6'3 and 245 is still not proportionate anyway.

But again, who are you that I should listen to? everything was fine and the doctor who happens to be certified by Transport Canada said that you are about as healthy as a overweight person can get, and he said that it is not normal.

And if you are referring to fat, have you not lived in north america at all my man? have you not seen the people around you.

Before claiming me as fat, maybe you should take on the fact that i used to be 270 lbs and i've lost what, 40 lbs? and i am still on the same diet with approximately 50 lbs to go.

The word we are looking for is "anyway"

Man, about the ECG - my case was just that I was nervous eh... it wasn't really anything about the times when i was breathing, but then again, you never know.

And just out of curiosity, what's wrong with montair? can you tell me please.
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Ok, im 90% sure of this… An ECG checks for electrical irregularities with your heart. IE if there are problems with the pump its self… I don’t THINK that the speed at which its going is going to cause any change in the ECG printout (other than less time between each pulse) So I wouldn’t worry about it from the point of view of you being nervous. Also a fail doesn’t mean a 100% fail… It usually means you have to go to a few specialists, and get their opinion etc…
The ECG, the docs report, and the Audio Gram all go to TC, where their docs get into a big circle and do their voodoo magic and make a license apperate out of the eather… I think the spell has something to do with the blood of students who don’t use right rudder on take off (if you ever get the chance to see this I would HIGHLY recommend it; there is a reason TCs phone numbers in Vancouver start with 666. :D )

But in more serious topics; you said you were 5’ 10” and 225. Now Im going to assume you are NOT a body builder and that weight is not muscle. That could eventually turn into a big problem down the road, and its something to get under control now. Your BMI is 32.3, anything over 29.9 is considered by the CDC to be obese.

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/adu ... ulator.htm
now BMI is not a prefect indicator because a 6’ 300 lbs fat bastard would have the same rating as a 6’ 300 lbs wall of muscle; but for the vast majority of the obese population it works like a hot dam!
Its not a present topic but you will be a much happier person; and have a much better life;

I know getting into shape is a hard thing to do; but there comes a point that if you really want to do this as a career you will have to either decide to go healthy or not.
Personally I am a HUGE fan of crash dieting, and crash exercising. I am an impatient type and I don’t like pissing away time, when I decide to do something I am bloody well going to do it and not waste time fucking around. Im sure everyone in the health field will give me the Nth degree about how unhealthy this was; but I went from 207 to 139 in 2 months. That was a year ago; and I am presently 155 and have a body fat of 6%. Loosing weight is VERY simple… all you have to do is wake up one day and decide I don’t want to be fat.
Loosing fat is a matter of arithmetic. Energy in = Energy out …
IE if you eat 3000 cals a day, you will output 3000 cals a day 2200 will be burned, 800 will go into storage. If you put in 1000 cals a day the body will still burn 2200, 1000 from the food you ate, and 1200 from storage. The average adult male needs approx 2200 cals a day to maintain a constant weight. So the body burns 2200 to keep the heart pumping, to keep the body warm, to keep the brain firing, etc… One lbs of fat makes up about 3500 cals, so for every 3500 cal deficit you can cause you will loose one lbs.
SO how do you do it; Well the MOST important thing is to dedicate yourself to it; you CANNOT go into this ½ assed. Its all or nothing; get the headspace, then loose weight.
This is what I did, its probably not the healthy thing to do, and if you die as a result of doing what I told you to, don’t even THINK of trying to sue me, im an instructor anyway so I don’t have any money :P

Cut intake to say 100-150 cals a day, I made a point to make a hardboiled egg one of the meals for the day (@ approx 75 cal) The protein from the egg is important (see bellow.) Get a good multivitamin, and drink min 8L of COLD water a day; (where does the weight go? It gets turned into ammonia and C02, IE flush that ammonia) Find a stimulant IE ephedrine etc.. and run till you pass out…. At least twice……. A day….. Im dead serious if you are not waking up in the ditch in cold shakes with only 20% of your brain you aren’t pushing yourself hard enough… calculate your burn rate for other exercise too; I made a point to do at least a 500 cal bike ride, on top of running a day. Remember any cardio less than 20 min is pointless… it takes the body a good 20 min to burn off sugar stores and switch to emergency backup (IE fat) So think of a 23 min run as a 3 min run. so be sure to time everything over 20 min. Note, steady pace is key, if you start walking part of the run those numbers get messed up; it may take a while before you can do 10k in one stretch, but once you pull it off your going to be hooked :D

Points of interest:
1) Muscle mass requires a LOT of energy to maintain, as a result the body is hesitant to make it, and very quick to destroy it; you MUST do anaerobic (weights) as well; to build and maintain muscle mass thus increasing your daily burn rate.

2) Muscles need some protein to build/maintain, but its actually a really small amount, an egg a day will cut it just fine; powders are a waste of money, its all marketing…

3) Get into a mind set of burning everything, don’t wear a jacket, drink all your water at 1 degree, FORCE the body to burn more fuel for heat… Walk the LONG way around the hanger, pull the plane to the pumps etc…

4) DO NOT sleep!!!!!! You will feel VERY tiered; as the body tries to conserve energy by keeping you in bed; tell it to F-off and force yourself to wake up/stay up.

5) Once you hit starvation your brain is going to start to loose cohesiveness, so be prepared for it; concentration becomes harder, and you will have to try extra hard at your flying; DO NOT FLY SOLO WHEN PULLING THIS STUNT!!!!

6) Be sure you know what’s going on with your body… having a small piece of power bar in your pocket is also 100% required if you are still ½ catatonic from a run and need to drive… just be sure to only eat within your daily allocation, so just a small bite… A full bar is something like 300 cals, well over your daily allotment.

7) Give your friends/ fam a heads up; I did NOT tell some people and actually had people think I was doing heroin; IE constantly catatonic, crazy weight loss etc… reduce the social workload, tell them simply what you are doing so they don’t imagine things…

8) Once you go into starvation the body will become VERY efficient at extracting fuel from your food; so this brings up a very important point. Having ONE slice of pizza when the body is operating normally will do little damage. When you are going the crash rout you MUST NOT CHEAT, any tiny morsel of energy you give the body will be extracted more and more… normally one pass through the digestive system only removes about 8% of the total food energy avail, so do not give the body a chance to ruin the last 3 days of math….

9) Have a target; and shoot below it, IE I shot for 139; with the intention of stabilizing at 155. because of the high efficiency of the body after this little adventure you cant just go back to pizza and beer; you have to slowly over the course of 5 or so months come back up to a reasonable level of input… during this time you will put more weight on, IE if you want to hit 155, aim for something below it.

10) on the topic of running, this is by far the best exercise because of how much energy is burned, however if you are not a fit person you will soon find that your joints aren’t up to the daily punishment; if you get pain don’t push it, it will only get worse as the days go on; rather switch to another cardio that is less high impact; giving a day or two for the joints to heal up stronger; then get back too it. After a few cycles like this you will have the legs of a CHAMPION!

11) also on the topic of running, I found going at 2:00am was the perfect time; run when and where if you pass out you wont attract attention; Ideally have a friend that is willing to go with you, but you don’t want to run down a public street midday, pass out and find EMS staring over you… I found a rout that no one in their right mind would walk at night, perfect place if you pass out; no attention… Also don’t bring a wallet/cell/ nice shoes etc..

12) no drinking, alcohol will slow metabolism, you are fighting to raise your metabolism on top of your body trying to slow it; so go cold turkey for say 6 months…



Anywho hope that helps, its not for everyone, but it was the best thing I ever did for myself! Good luck
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Walker wrote: 12) no drinking, alcohol will slow metabolism, you are fighting to raise your metabolism on top of your body trying to slow it; so go cold turkey for say 6 months...
Good on ya Texas Ranger, but 6 MONTHS!!?!?!?!!! Looks like I'm fucked! See ya at the fat farm, folks!

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If you have a pulse and eye balls you will pass a class 1. A friend of mine passed his class 1 then died of a heart attack a couple weeks later, goes to show you that the medical is actually just a cash cow for retired doctors and a placebo for passengers that their pilot is physically fit. Remember the flight that crashed into the Florida everglades because the pilots were trying to change the bulbs on the landing gear indication? Well the captains GUT pushed the control column, which switched the auto pilot off......the rest is history.

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