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I saw on the company website that WestJet is allowing more visible tattoos on front line crew than in the past. How does this apply to pilots? If you have one forearm tattoo would you be required to wear long sleeves, or are visible tattoos permitted as long as they aren’t offensive etc.

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BaaBoo wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:50 pm I saw on the company website that WestJet is allowing more visible tattoos on front line crew in the past. How does this apply to pilots? If you have one forearm tattoo would you be required to wear long sleeves, or are visible tattoos permitted as long as they aren’t offensive etc.

Thanks!
I believe that there are pilots with sleeves that show up sleeveless.

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The above are specific to pilots. Flight attendants and other front-line personnel have slightly less allowing rules.
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Thanks a bunch!
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Not sure about WS, but AC is pretty conservative in the uniform department and we have a few guys with sleeves.
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dontcallmeshirley wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:06 pm
BaaBoo wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:50 pm I saw on the company website that WestJet is allowing more visible tattoos on front line crew in the past. How does this apply to pilots? If you have one forearm tattoo would you be required to wear long sleeves, or are visible tattoos permitted as long as they aren’t offensive etc.

Thanks!
I believe that there are pilots with sleeves that show up sleeveless.

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The above are specific to pilots. Flight attendants and other front-line personnel have slightly less allowing rules.
I don't get why every friggin native policy includes maori? Even getting a library card or applying for the city will get you preference if you're in that group?
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newlygrounded wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:06 pm I don't get why every friggin native policy includes maori? Even getting a library card or applying for the city will get you preference if you're in that group?
Well known indigenous group that was was victim of genocide by a British colony. It's popular to hate white English speaking cisgender males.
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dontcallmeshirley wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:28 pm
newlygrounded wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:06 pm I don't get why every friggin native policy includes maori? Even getting a library card or applying for the city will get you preference if you're in that group?
Well known indigenous group that was was victim of genocide by a British colony. It's popular to hate white English speaking cisgender males.
Thanks the British part "makes sense" as far as their wacky logic goes!
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What if one is Korean with a Maori facial tattoo cuz they identify as one of them? Can they get away with it? :rolleyes:
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rooster wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:03 pm What if one is Korean with a Maori facial tattoo cuz they identify as one of them? Can they get away with it? :rolleyes:
Nope, streng verboten..cultural appropriation
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dontcallmeshirley wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:28 pm
newlygrounded wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:06 pm I don't get why every friggin native policy includes maori? Even getting a library card or applying for the city will get you preference if you're in that group?
Well known indigenous group that was was victim of genocide by a British colony. It's popular to hate white English speaking cisgender males.
Genocide?

genocide
/ˈdʒɛnəsʌɪd/
noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

That most definitely did not happen in New Zealand
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Aotearoa wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:29 am Genocide?

genocide
/ˈdʒɛnəsʌɪd/
noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

That most definitely did not happen in New Zealand
Let's not go too far down this rabbit hole...

Genocide goes far beyond just murder. The etymology has the word derived from the word genos (Greek for race) and cide (latin for kill), but the English meaning has evolved and has a legal definition in the Geneva Convention Article II.
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
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dontcallmeshirley wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:10 am
Aotearoa wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:29 am Genocide?

genocide
/ˈdʒɛnəsʌɪd/
noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

That most definitely did not happen in New Zealand
Let's not go too far down this rabbit hole...

Genocide goes far beyond just murder. The etymology has the word derived from the word genos (Greek for race) and cide (latin for kill), but the English meaning has evolved and has a legal definition in the Geneva Convention Article II.
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
A Canadian is certainly in no position to criticise the treatment of the Maori. The treaty of waitangi created into law protections that are still enforced to this day. Maori have their own party, healthcare system, we all learned Maori at school and it is used throughout government and school. The Maori culture is thoroughly embedded in the kiwi culture, including the name of my handle.

Maybe you are referring to the moriori genocide?

Or do you want to talk about genocide in Canada, be it either the indigenous or the french? Certainly in no position to cast stones
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Mic drop.
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Aotearoa wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:29 am A Canadian is certainly in no position to criticise the treatment of the Maori. The treaty of waitangi created into law protections that are still enforced to this day. Maori have their own party, healthcare system, we all learned Maori at school and it is used throughout government and school. The Maori culture is thoroughly embedded in the kiwi culture, including the name of my handle.

Maybe you are referring to the moriori genocide?

Or do you want to talk about genocide in Canada, be it either the indigenous or the french? Certainly in no position to cast stones
I'm a Jew and the child of an immigrant family... I think I am certainly in a position to call out genocides, current and past.

You know what they say about assumptions...

Edit: Let me be more clear. My original post was a joke regarding how Canadian society has become extreme in the "righting of wrongs," but only when the wrongs were committed by English speaking white males. This rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and does nothing to continue the conversation about the tattoo policy at WestJet.
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Just don't call him/her Shirley!
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Woke is a joke. Try asserting your rights to the Russians if your from the eastern block, try doing it with Japanese if your Phillipino or Chinese. To the winner of the spoils and to the conquered the riches. Time for the West to realize this and stop prancing around it. As far as “body art” goes if you need to express yourself do it while I don’t have to look at it.Volunteer or something.
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-42 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:58 pm Woke is a joke. Try asserting your rights to the Russians if your from the eastern block, try doing it with Japanese if your Phillipino or Chinese. To the winner of the spoils and to the conquered the riches. Time for the West to realize this and stop prancing around it. As far as “body art” goes if you need to express yourself do it while I don’t have to look at it.Volunteer or something.
Wow, insular much? What’s it to you if someone wants body art? You sound judgy and self intitled.

Don’t like the fact that most if not all North American carrier’s have slackened their policy on tats?

WHELP, You’ve got two hoofs and a heart beat. Use them to walk to your destination!

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It would be hard to find Westjetty pilots these days without tattoos. It'd be like having a no spikey hair policy in the 00's.
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