There was no counter offer made, the first AIP was the one voted on. ALPA strike pay is essentially a Junior FOs wages so we had the least to lose in a strike. We were literally hours away from setting the brake, the strike centre was in full swing. The resources that ALPA provide are not comparable to any other airline union group in Canada IMO.mijbil wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:20 pm Early contract renegotiation opportunity
Here is an idea for the WS side of the house. The CIRB ruling on common employer keeps getting delayed while the WG and WS pilot's lawyers keep talking. At some point we will be declared common employer and one union to represent all.
Back when WS pilots were negotiating with WS, we at WG (as well as other pilot groups) were hoping that WS was going to hit it out of the park financially in terms of wage gains. In the end as far as I can tell, WS basically got a cost of living increase. Yes Swoop died. I think that that was going to happen anyhow. I am told that in exchange for a scope clause that the potential pay raise possibilities took a hit. One of my neighbors around the corner (A WS CA) told me that the company offer was genius. It was basically a pay raise for the more junior FO's who jumped on the companies first counter offer. I don't think that many of them realized that at this point in time that the pilot groups (and the AMEs) are truly in the driver's seat and will be for a while. Having your own strike personal strike fund set aside and being willing to set the park brake will pay off in the long run as it is doing so repeatedly south of the border. They ladder off one another's pay gains down there.
I was chatting with a couple of AC pilots in the terminal the other day and said that we are all hoping that AC sets the bar high this spring. They told me that unity at AC has never been higher. Good so far and I hope to see them get a massive pay increase.
Back to the proposal. In any pilot group the real power is in the local MEC. It doesn't matter which union you are. Example : both WS and WG cabin crew groups are represented by CUPE. They are not public employees. CUPE is merely the union vehicle. They could as easily be represented by any other union out there.
Here at WG we are represented by UNIFOR. What do we at WG have in common with all the other UNIFOR locals? Nothing. It's a vehicle for labour relations. As a bit of a bonus, it also has several hundred thousand members so if an MEC president calls up UNIFOR national they do get to talk directly to the labour minister sooner rather than later. I'm not sure if ALPA has that sort of pull but it's beside the main idea here
I know that ALPA has done marvellous things for the WS pilot group compared to what the old company centric WJPA did. I never though I would see WS unionize ever but the slow erosion of working conditions ended up with WS becoming ALPA. Could WS have done as well with UNIFOR as their union? I don't know but really it's not about ALPA or UNIFOR, it's about how well your local MEC and the negotiating team does face to face with the company.
Once we are declared to have a common employer and we all get to vote on which union to represent all of us, what would be the result if we all voted to be represented by UNIFOR? At WG, our contract is due up in November so negotiations should start soon. Read our WG contract. I know WS thinks that theirs is the best, and it is the best compared to what you had before. Have a close read of our WG contract. Here is one example: We get 1.5 X above 80 hours and 2.0 X above 100 hours. We get 2.0 X for GDO callout no matter how low is your published sked. (I'm at 62 this month with an MMG of 80 and just did about 25 hours of GDO in 3 days. I will get paid 80 straight time and 25 at double time). That's just one item. For fun, run your hours worked through our pay rates (yes they are less on paper) and see what you would get paid for the month. That would be temporary until November or so.
Now imagine Alexis facing off against 2500 unified WS/WG pilots with requirements for the best of both contracts on the table and the resolve to set the park brake if required. ONEX will be breathing down his neck for a settlement since apparently they want an IPO next spring and labour problems won't help sell WS to potential investors. Basically here is an opportunity to reset your contract 2.5 years early. Think of it as "contract Jui Jitsu". Vote in UNIFOR - it's just a union vehicle same as ALPA but with less costly dues. Don't like UNIFOR after a year?. Vote in ALPA again later on after we get a new contract this fall.
Cheers
I don't think the pilot group has the energy to go through another potential strike again so soon. It was 6 years of a very hostile mgmt vs pilot group battle. The hope is AC makes some good gains here that we will ladder of.