pelmet wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:42 am
Basically, another mass random killing attempt. Had another one in Maine. There is a common link that people don’t like to admit
Do tell.
I'll let others tell....
"The family of the Army reservist accused of fatally shooting more than a dozen people in Lewiston, Maine, alerted police and military officials that he was experiencing an “acute” mental health episode before the Wednesday night massacre, the suspect’s sister-in-law said."
He also told flight attendants to restrain him, told police he was having a "nervous breakdown," discussed use of psychedelic mushrooms and said he thought he was dreaming and just wanted to wake up.
pelmet wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:42 am
Basically, another mass random killing attempt. Had another one in Maine. There is a common link that people don’t like to admit
Do tell.
I'll let others tell....
"The family of the Army reservist accused of fatally shooting more than a dozen people in Lewiston, Maine, alerted police and military officials that he was experiencing an “acute” mental health episode before the Wednesday night massacre, the suspect’s sister-in-law said."
He also told flight attendants to restrain him, told police he was having a "nervous breakdown," discussed use of psychedelic mushrooms and said he thought he was dreaming and just wanted to wake up.
pelmet wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:42 am
Basically, another mass random killing attempt. Had another one in Maine. There is a common link that people don’t like to admit
Do tell.
I'll let others tell....
"The family of the Army reservist accused of fatally shooting more than a dozen people in Lewiston, Maine, alerted police and military officials that he was experiencing an “acute” mental health episode before the Wednesday night massacre, the suspect’s sister-in-law said."
He also told flight attendants to restrain him, told police he was having a "nervous breakdown," discussed use of psychedelic mushrooms and said he thought he was dreaming and just wanted to wake up.
I don’t get it, what part is similar in your mind? One guy was hearing voices, the other was depressed and sleepless for nearly two days.
What are you implying here, is there a common cause that you see?
People are not in your mind, so why don’t you spell it out, exactly what you are thinking but I’m not seeing anything other than two completely separate incidents with no commonality!
"The family of the Army reservist accused of fatally shooting more than a dozen people in Lewiston, Maine, alerted police and military officials that he was experiencing an “acute” mental health episode before the Wednesday night massacre, the suspect’s sister-in-law said."
He also told flight attendants to restrain him, told police he was having a "nervous breakdown," discussed use of psychedelic mushrooms and said he thought he was dreaming and just wanted to wake up.
I don’t get it, what part is similar in your mind? One guy was hearing voices, the other was depressed and sleepless for nearly two days.
What are you implying here, is there a common cause that you see?
People are not in your mind, so why don’t you spell it out, exactly what you are thinking but I’m not seeing anything other than two completely separate incidents with no commonality!
I like the pretending that you can't see the link.
Not saying that I have the answer to this for pilots but the type of random mass murder designed to kill as many people as possible that happens so frequently happened a lot less back in the '50's. Red flag laws are a good quick start in terms of guns.
pelmet wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:51 pm
Not saying that I have the answer to this for pilots but the type of random mass murder designed to kill as many people as possible that happens so frequently happened a lot less back in the '50's. Red flag laws are a good quick start in terms of guns.
Was that simply because men just drank themselves into a stupor and died young, or do you have another theory as to why the 50s were so enlightened when it came to mental health?
Also, Canada has a robust program in place to remove firearms and suspend licence privileges from individuals whom display behaviour threatening themselves or others, via the Canadian Firearms Program (CFP). Call 1-800-731-4000, press 2 (report a Public/Spousal Safety Concern).
"The family of the Army reservist accused of fatally shooting more than a dozen people in Lewiston, Maine, alerted police and military officials that he was experiencing an “acute” mental health episode before the Wednesday night massacre, the suspect’s sister-in-law said."
He also told flight attendants to restrain him, told police he was having a "nervous breakdown," discussed use of psychedelic mushrooms and said he thought he was dreaming and just wanted to wake up.
I don’t get it, what part is similar in your mind? One guy was hearing voices, the other was depressed and sleepless for nearly two days.
What are you implying here, is there a common cause that you see?
People are not in your mind, so why don’t you spell it out, exactly what you are thinking but I’m not seeing anything other than two completely separate incidents with no commonality!
I like the pretending that you can't see the link.
Not saying that I have the answer to this for pilots but the type of random mass murder designed to kill as many people as possible that happens so frequently happened a lot less back in the '50's. Red flag laws are a good quick start in terms of guns.
Ok, I thought you were implying a common cause for the mental illness, that being said, the mass shooting had some red flags and family members apparently tried to intervene.
The Alaska pilot at this point seems like it was not preplanned and perhaps has a case for a temporary insanity defence, he absolutely should not have been going to work in the first place. I doubt he’ll ever fly again.
Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:30 pm
Forget logic. Knee jerk reactions are what we’ll see. Remember German Wings and FAs babysitting you? Remember the 1500 rule after Colgan even through both those pilots had 3000+ hours?
I’m expecting an FAA announcement banning anyone in the jump seat! It’ll last 6 months until enough flights have been cancelled because commuting pilots didn’t make their flight.
And what stops a pilot to do exactly this when he's actually flying the plane vs being in the jumpseat
The Colgan situation quoted there had a reported poorer sleep situation (one of the pilots) involved in the pairing.
But in this event it’s occurring within the misfortune of 40hrs no-sleep heading home via jump seat, the least ideal for sleeping (I would imagine). So yes, one can speculate how things could fair any different if it was to happen while actually on duty in the pilot seat.
Yet one might wonder here too if this isn’t brief dozing then waking with a start off that pedestal-like seat, grabbing at those close red handles in view above in sleepwalking style (after becoming so over-tired and just seconds into dreaming something dramatic).
