Jazz Overshoots in YMM

COUG · Post by **COUG** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:52 pm

An Air Canada Jazz RJ just shot 2 approaches on rwy 25 at YMM and missed twice. It is now on it's way back to Calgary. There are going to be alot of angry passengers...

Longtimer · Post by **Longtimer** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:55 pm

Overshoot just for the hell of it or did they have a good reason???? Passengers are always pissed when the aircraft does not land but they are really pissed when it crashes.

talkinghead · Post by **talkinghead** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:55 pm

UM....... who cares?

greenwich · Post by **greenwich** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:57 pm

WOW!

That's phenomenal!

I didn't realize that aeroplanes actually overshot.

G

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:02 pm

METAR CYMM 302300Z 30009KT 4SM -SHRA BKN020 OVC080 14/13 A2962 RMK
SC6AC2 HZ SLP037=
SPECI CYMM 302333Z 31008KT 2SM -SHRA SCT004 OVC017 RMK SF3SC5 HZ=

METAR CYMM 310000Z 30007KT 2SM -SHRA FEW002 OVC023 14/13 A2961 RMK
ST2SC6 HZ VIS 4 SE-SW SLP036=
SPECI CYMM 310020Z 29007KT 3SM -SHRA FEW002 OVC023 RMK ST2SC6 HZ VIS
W-NE 11/2=

METAR CYMM 310100Z 30007KT 1 1/2SM SHRA SCT001 BKN005 OVC023 13/13
A2961 RMK ST3ST2SC2 SLP035=
METAR CYMM 310100Z CCA 30007KT 1 1/2SM SHRA SCT001 BKN005 OVC023
13/13 A2961 RMK ST3ST2SC2 HZ SLP035=

TAF CYMM 310040Z 310113 30008KT 6SM -SHRA SCT004 OVC015 TEMPO 0113
11/2SM -SHRA BR BKN004
BECMG 0103 02008KT
RMK NXT FCST BY 07Z=

060174 CYMM FORT MCMURRAY
CYMM ILS 25 U/S
TIL 0610010200

060171 CYMM FORT MCMURRAY
CYMM CLEARWAY RWY 25 NOT AVBL DUE TO MEN AND EQPT WORKING APRX 600
FT FM THR 07. DECLARED DIST:
TORA TODA ASDA LDA
RYW 07: 6000 7000 6000 6000
RWY 25: 6000 6000 6000 6000
DLY 1230/0130
TIL 0608020130

Siddley Hawker · Post by **Siddley Hawker** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:43 pm

Bah! At Down East International the limits were 50 and 1/8.

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:57 pm

This is news? The ILS is down, they shoot the best available approach, and don't bust the minimums to get in. What's the story, that Jazz pilots won't risk your life to look like they're doing a good job?

COUG · Post by **COUG** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:07 pm

They are doing a very good job! I never said they were'nt!

JigglyBus · Post by **JigglyBus** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:11 pm

COUG, please explain to us how this is post worthy.

golden hawk · Post by **golden hawk** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:13 pm

Amazing coincidence - I missed today as well. A six foot putt with right to left break......

Bubbaganoosh · Post by **Bubbaganoosh** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:26 pm

Yeah, I missed too, pissed on my shoe at that!

SMP · Post by **SMP** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:28 pm

Anyone with insight as to why the ILS is U/S for two months?

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:31 pm

If those workers are on the runway centerline, they're in the localizer critical area. Anything the size of a pickup truck or bigger will throw it off.

SMP · Post by **SMP** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:33 pm

Grimey,

I think the WIP notam is until August 2nd.

SMP

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:36 pm

Yea. The NOTAMs could just be out of sync, though, or the WIP one will get updated on the 2nd. Anyway, they probably can't have it up during the day because of the WIP, and if they leave any stuff around they can't have it up at night either. If they've moved alot of dirt around, they'll need to get it rechecked before it goes back in service. Went through the same sorts of headaches here in YTH for the last year and a half.

Carl · Post by **Carl** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:43 am

and WHO CARES!!!

Elessar_44 · Post by **Elessar_44** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:13 pm

"Big 'who cares?' newbie!"

master switch · Post by **master switch** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:20 pm

i missed the toilet taking a #2! was less than 100ovc at my house.

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:46 pm

i missed the toilet taking a #2! was less than 100ovc at my house.

Just how high up are you when you take a dump?????

twotter · Post by **twotter** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:07 pm

Siddley Hawker wrote:Bah! At Down East International the limits were 50 and 1/8.

You are dating yourself... As am I for comenting about it...

I don't think most people on here would understand who de best co-pilot of dem all is....

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:11 pm

Yeah, well the other day missed at YFC when it was only 100 and 1/8th, twice as a matter of fact.

Didn't have the visual reference despite doing a PMA, that is the way it is, I'm not worried about it.

Fly safe.

CoolGuy · Post by **CoolGuy** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:09 pm

The Significants of this post is I could see the planes lights and I could see it pull up and overshoot. I am not sure what was the problem. I could have told them on the radio that they did break through instead of going back to Calgary.

BlueSkies12 · Post by **BlueSkies12** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:14 pm

It can be a shitty situation at times. You can break out right over the runway, but at that poing it's too late. Plus, for my company at least the most approaches they allow you to do is 2 before going to your alternate.

It's Jazz, this isn't legitimate controversy cuz they know what they're doing. But i'm sure they would have appreciated you assisting them from the ground.

C-GPFG · Post by **C-GPFG** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:12 am

master switch wrote:i missed the toilet taking a #2! was less than 100ovc at my house.

Crank the seat lights up to strength 5.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:20 am

This is a very fucked up thread.

Overshoots, Down East International, taking a shit at 100'?

WTF?

(I love it!

)

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