AME strike: the truth

[justapassenger]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

[dontcallmeshirley]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

And it takes a whole lot less to take an opinion piece and post it here as fact.

[theacolyte]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

Just piss off already you boot licker.

[daedalusx]

If it's such a great job with great salaries and so easy to get your accreditation then why is there a major industry wide shortage ?

[fling_wrench]

That made about zero sense, "the market should dictate wages" but "I think the workers are not worth as much as the market is paying"

[daedalusx]

That made about zero sense, "the market should dictate wages" but "I think the workers are not worth as much as the market is paying"

It's just your typical neo-con/neo-lib "we want free market economy until it starts affecting our multimillion bonuses, then we want daddy government to intervene."

[JBI]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

Are you the author of said article?

[pax2]

Ok let me feed the troll. The 2 years of technical school is just the beginning. There’s a long apprenticeship to be carried out with a licensed AME inspecting and signing off a logbook on everything that the apprentice has done. The logbook then must be inspected by Transport Canada. Detailed individual type courses for each aircraft have to be taken before being given an applicable ACA “aircraft certification authority”. There’s continuous recurrent training that must take place in order to maintain the license. Certification of a large aircraft that’s carrying in some cases several hundred people at 35000+ft/500+ miles an hour is a huge responsibility and should be paid accordingly. The reporter like yourself is naive and has no idea as to what they’re writing about.

[Inverted2]

If it's such a great job with great salaries and so easy to get your accreditation then why is there a major industry wide shortage ?

Cause you can make more working at a BMW dealership changing some douchebags brake pads and NOT have to work nights, weekends, holidays or out in the freezing cold.

[goingnowherefast]

Maybe other industries should use this as leverage to increase their pay.

Much more productive for society to raise up everyone else up than beat down a group that fought hard for their increases.

[DanWEC]

You have a very, very obvious and weird distain towards AME's to the point where your opinion has zero credibility.
Only thing I can think of is your girlfriend (Or boyfriend) left you for someone with shiny new Red Box set.

Must have sucked watching them drive away together as the "AME's- we screw, nut, and bolt" bumper sticker disappears into the distance.

[BTD]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

Followed by 4 years of apprenticeship.

[twa22]

Maybe other industries should use this as leverage to increase their pay.

Much more productive for society to raise up everyone else up than beat down a group that fought hard for their increases.

I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that like Inverted said, a mechanic at a car dealership makes more then an AME... Or a sales person for that matter (and they literally do nothing)

Which is what is hilarious... People will scream at pilots and AMEs to get back to work, but they'll happily pay 2000 bucks to have their brakes changed at a dealership... I have yet to understand how people have such little critical thinking skills these days

[rookiepilot]

A, you’re late, B) Toilet Paper

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[Fanblade]

Ashley Nunes is a well known for hire journalist on the aviation/transportation sector. He shows up as an anti union journalist hit man of sorts quite often. Remember the name.

Someone paid for that article.

Who would it have been? You get 20 guesses and the last 19 don’t count. That is where your contempt should be targeted.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/privacy ... nformation.



Any article that has "Special to the Globe and Mail" under the reporter's name or at the very bottom of the piece signifies freelanced content. A quick Google search of the person's name will often give you their contact information.

[DanWEC]

A search of his aviation articles shows a wide swath of completely contradicting opinions under different titles.

Usually taking a pro-corporate/anti-union slant with quotes from CEO's..... except when they're not.

It's obvious by the inconsistency that they're being written by someone taking a paycheque. Zero credibility.

[Fanblade]

Yup, first time poster….long time reader but I had to post on this one….

You don’t like it, go to a different company. Still not happy about it, leave the industry. Quit the whining and hiding behind your union card and do what every non-union employee out there does. Every good, hardworking AME I know in the industry, has found a job with respect and great compensation. Unions protect the lazy and incompetent. No matter the deal, they are never happy and want more for sitting and waiting for the E guy to remove the canon plug so you can turn 2 screws.

The picture in the paper was a joke. Union ‘team members’ smiling with picket signs, shaking hands with a potential NDP leadership candidate. What a joke…..and you thought management wrecked WJ. Wow. Proud work gents! Haha

You all are destroying the public’s travel plans because you are too lazy to find a new job. Get to work!

Justapassenger’s very first post on this forum was on June 19, 2024. Just as everything was heating up. Seems very coincidental no. Seems to have some inside knowledge that the average Joe likely wouldn’t. A rather personal stance to the issue.

Then he/she posts a paid for article. My guess this poster is WJ management or a manager at something indirectly impacted by the strike.

Yes management can get this petty when they lose.

Congratulations WJ mechanics. Ignore the temper tantrums.

[-42]

Good for you guys! Never was a fan of Westjets great business model but at least you stood for what’s right. Next up CEO golden parachute to new territory to hack and slash.

[justapassenger]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

Followed by 4 years of apprenticeship.

4 years?!!?! You must be a WestJet AME and / or a union member….. vs the 2 years at a non-union company where you get sh@t done versus waiting for the canon plug to be removed and napping in the baggage hold.

[TPP]

Justapassenger is just upset his bonus will be smaller this year as his ONEX legal team couldn't bribe the right politician to try to force workers back to work instead of negotiating.

I will shed a single tear for you sir.

Congrats WJ AMEs for getting a inflation combating raise.

Trolls are so adorable when they get fired up.

[BTD]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

Followed by 4 years of apprenticeship.

4 years?!!?! You must be a WestJet AME and / or a union member….. vs the 2 years at a non-union company where you get sh@t done versus waiting for the canon plug to be removed and napping in the baggage hold.

Go read my almost 20 years of posts on this website. You can figure my role in the industry. I added information to your misleading post. I could really not care less what you think.

[5degrees]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

Followed by 4 years of apprenticeship.

4 years?!!?! You must be a WestJet AME and / or a union member….. vs the 2 years at a non-union company where you get sh@t done versus waiting for the canon plug to be removed and napping in the baggage hold.

Oh look another "justanidiot" post ! Are you the alt account for shill Bill lol.

[Tdicommuter]

Best article I have read in a while: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... ke-delays/

Need to remember that it’s 2 years of technical school, not a University Diploma or an MBA here.

Followed by 4 years of apprenticeship.

4 years?!!?! You must be a WestJet AME and / or a union member….. vs the 2 years at a non-union company where you get sh@t done versus waiting for the canon plug to be removed and napping in the baggage hold.

Well to use your own ammo here. If your job is to try and manage the group your seem to dislike so much, just quit. Go to a company that is not a union shop. You very clearly have high regard for non union shops. That's the beauty of Canada, and the free market. You have the choice to work where you want. You knew the conditions when you accepted the job, and if you don't like it then quit. There's plenty of work out there for a smart university educated individual such as yourself. There's no doubt that unions can protect the weakest employees, but they are a result of company actions that makes the majority of the employees feel they need to be protected from poor corporate behaviour. Action, reaction. A perfect example would be exactly how these negotiations went down. But again, you knew the job when you accepted it, if you hate these employees so much, just quit! The free market will work itself out, and we thank you for your service!

[fling_wrench]

^^this!

To be fair, the length of the apprenticeship depends on the school you attended. Going to ICS would require a four-year apprenticeship afterwards, but one of the colleges 2-year diploma programs would only require 2-year afterwards.

[-42]

“Great compensation” who exactly do you work for? Enquiring minds want to know.