day surgery for a skin cancer and medical cat 1

[trudel]

Hi Aviators,

i ve had a small nodule removed from my skin and sent for biopsy, and after the biopsy the dr said its magline and need another surgery with margin plus a general anesthesia for reconstruction but i was out for home the same day.

the question is ,do i have to report to TC or my CAME ? chances to keep the medical cat 1 valid i am 705 pilot.
pm's are welcome.

Thank you in advance

[Bede]

Report to CAME at next medical. Bring a copy of your dermatologist (or whomever did the procedure) report with the diagnosis, treatment and prognosis.

[PostmasterGeneral]

Don't say anything. Did nothing to affect your medical.

[trudel]

Thanks for your reply.really appreciate.

[Bede]

Don't say anything. Did nothing to affect your medical.

Please don't give people advice that is illegal and can haunt them later. A pilot, by law, must disclose medical conditions to the CAME. The question is "have you ever been diagnosed with, or investigated for...cancer?" Failure to disclose is an Aeronautics Act violation and will get you in significantly more hot water than a CAR's violation.

I'll tell you a little story. I have a friend. Years ago, he was diagnosed with a minor psych issue. Nothing big, probably would have lost his medical for 6 months, but that's it. Fast forward 10 years. He has another, different medical issue. Again, nothing a specialist consult wouldn't rectify. Anyways, the specialist casually references the history of the first medical condition in his report to TC. The RAMO pulls his medical for his "non-disclosure of a previous medical condition." Now he's without a medical for a long time while he tries to explain why he never disclosed the first medical condition.

[nohojob]

During my last medical, I found out that the CAME had access to the informations related to my last visit to my family doctor.

So I wouldn't hide stuff...

[yowflyer23]

^yep. Got an ultrasound to check on something the day before my cat 1 renewal appointment. While visiting my CAME, he told me the results before my family doctor had a chance to call me with the results. No point lying. They look through your medical records.

[Swampdonk]

Yea, don’t hide anything. Everything is a available to them on line.
I was in N Ontario in 21. It got so wet and sore, the growth, that I had to get something done. Had a phone consult with a specialist in Thunder Bay and had the surgery a couple months later. Only thing that will bother your Cat 1 is what you get for treatment.

[Dias]

Years ago, he was diagnosed with a minor psych issue. Nothing big, probably would have lost his medical for 6 months, but that's it.

Not anymore.

[DanWEC]

I just want to point out the difference between reporting to TC or your CAME as your first course of action.

TC- NO. You can very likely end up with a very quick nastygram, possibly while on a layover, while you percolate in a bureaucratic gulag with the burden on you to recoop your cert. It'll require at least one trip to your CAME anyways, and possibly oncologist for documentation. If you want the summer, or entire year off this is a good course of action.

CAME- Yes. They're your doc. They'll determine what's necessary, and it absolves you from any risk. They can very well submit a note to your file at TC that won't result in any action at all, instead of circling around to that by notifying TC first.

Besides all that, I hope you're feeling OK. that can be a frightening wakeup to hear that C word. Take a few days or a week to clear your head if you have to. Luckily we're living in a time where treatments and diagnoses are more and more effective, albeit slowly.
A friend's father has had to have some sort of something-oids removed almost annually. It's been 30 years of it and he's perfectly fine except the annoyance of the procedures.


All the best.

[Red_Comet]

I just want to point out the difference between reporting to TC or your CAME as your first course of action.

TC- NO. You can very likely end up with a very quick nastygram, possibly while on a layover, while you percolate in a bureaucratic gulag with the burden on you to recoop your cert. It'll require at least one trip to your CAME anyways, and possibly oncologist for documentation. If you want the summer, or entire year off this is a good course of action.

CAME- Yes. They're your doc. They'll determine what's necessary, and it absolves you from any risk. They can very well submit a note to your file at TC that won't result in any action at all, instead of circling around to that by notifying TC first.

Besides all that, I hope you're feeling OK. that can be a frightening wakeup to hear that C word. Take a few days or a week to clear your head if you have to. Luckily we're living in a time where treatments and diagnoses are more and more effective, albeit slowly.
A friend's father has had to have some sort of something-oids removed almost annually. It's been 30 years of it and he's perfectly fine except the annoyance of the procedures.


All the best.

This is really good advice. I don't communicate with TC at all unless I have to. Especially on medical matters, everything goes through my CAME. He's my doc and I trust his judgement. He is actively involved in keeping me healthy and in fact has often times caught things that my family docs/specialists have missed. He also decides when and how to report medical events to TC, and I trust his judgement since he's been doing this longer than I've been flying. So report to your CAME and let him decide best course of action.

[Monkey_in_a_suit]

File a WSIB claim as cosmic radiation is now considered an exposure related risk for pilots by WSIB. They recognize the studies and statistics that show pilots at a significant risk to skin cancers compared to the general population. You probably won't get any money from it but atleast it'll be attached to your file incase you lose you license due to another problem that can be traced to the skin cancer.

[Me262]

So serious question, the cockpit windows don't fully block uv rays? Time to always wear long sleeve shirts?

[Swampdonk]

Cockpit windows block zero UV rays. Long sleeves and sunscreen is mandatory if you don’t wana go down this road. Beaver is OK for sunscreen. Otters not so much. Sweat washin sunscreen down into your eyes doesn’t help your forward vision. Truckers go through all this stuff too. Very common in their industry.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

Cockpit windows block zero UV rays.

This is false btw if the windshield is glass. Even more so if double-paned. I'm not saying don't protect yourself though.

[Nomedical]

It’s weird area. Technically if your doctor that treated you knows you’re a pilot they’re obligated to file a 26-0011E form. Which is basically telling on you. I assume most doctors don’t know this but that’s a big assumption.

You might want to be proactive, contact your CAME and bring ALL the documents you have from specialists. They’ll submit them to the RAMO. Depending on what region you’re in you’ll have your medical pulled and wait a year, not being able to speak to anyone that knows anything. Finally you’ll lose your mind and get a lawyer involved. TC has a service standard however they get to choose when they follow it. To busy? Service standard suspended.

Just be ready for TC to make an absolute mountain out of this molehill

[Dry Guy]

I got a letter from the Minister of Transport's office stating the TC service standard does not apply if your medical assessment is deemed "complex".

[Meatservo]

Thing to do when you live in a country like Canada, with their cumbersome and careless bureaucracies and self-indulgently lazy and ignorant civil servants, is to do what organized criminals do. Find a doctor who has lost his license for a drug problem, or a good veterinarian. Bribe them to help fix you up when you have a problem you don’t want the government to know about. The government is not your friend.

[Nomedical]

I got a letter from the Minister of Transport's office stating the TC service standard does not apply if your medical assessment is deemed "complex".

Ask where that is stated in the CARs, CASS or act? This frustrates me. I was told the same. I can’t find reference to it anywhere. It’s like being pulled over for speeding and telling the cop the law doesn’t apply to you because it doesn’t. Demented. TC medicine is run as well as a dumpster fire full of tires and diesel. Burns hot, long, out of control and smells.

[Dry Guy]

I got a letter from the Minister of Transport's office stating the TC service standard does not apply if your medical assessment is deemed "complex".

Ask where that is stated in the CARs, CASS or act? This frustrates me. I was told the same. I can’t find reference to it anywhere.

I don't think there would be a reference stating something isn't there (like a service standard).

[Aeros]

From TC Aviation Service Standards:

Processing, by an employee of the Department of Transport, of a medical certificate in respect of a pilot licence or a pilot permit other than a student pilot permit

What is this? Upon receipt of a Medical Examination Report or Medical Declaration, TCCA will review the report or declaration. If all conditions are met, a new medical certificate will be issued or the validity of the existing one will be extended.

Our standard: 40 working days. Actual processing times can vary depending on the complexity and completeness of the request. Service standard is not applicable in circumstances where there is a medical finding on a Medical Examination Report and/or where additional medical examinations are required in order to ensure requirements are met.