Just Brutal...SFO

[rookiepilot]

Only a matter of time....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10dsKnPoMQs

[Rooster69]

Busy airport. Been there many times. Pilots have to be cognizant of what is going on. When ATC clears you across an active runway and to line up on the other parallel active runway, you don’t dawdle around and taxi at a walking pace. Southwest caused the first go around by taking too much time to cross 28L. If it was VFR, and it probably was VFR, the crew (FO) should have seen the a/c on final and not taxied slow. (Southwest RARELY taxis below near rotational speed).

The second go around was caused because their call sign got stepped on when they were given the t/o clearance. Southwest was correct in not blasting down the runway if they were not sure that they had the t/o clearance.

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Busy airport. Been there many times. Pilots have to be cognizant of what is going on. When ATC clears you across an active runway and to line up on the other parallel active runway, you don’t dawdle around and taxi at a walking pace. Southwest caused the first go around by taking too much time to cross 28L. If it was VFR, and it probably was VFR, the crew (FO) should have seen the a/c on final and not taxied slow. (Southwest RARELY taxis below near rotational speed).

The second go around was caused because their call sign got stepped on when they were given the t/o clearance. Southwest was correct in not blasting down the runway if they were not sure that they had the t/o clearance.

All this can happen and is normal.

That ATC initiates a discussion 'you shouldn't have been there' when, yes, they were exactly where they should have been, is not professional and shouldn't happen. And then acting all pissed off when the pilots point that out would make the blood boil in the majority of crews.

The solutions are quite simple, and are being used in 99% of the world:
1) Stick to standard phraseology. Are they where you think they shouldn't be? Fine, issue instructions to get them somewhere else, don't clog up valuable frequency time with statements that don't help anyone. That can be discussed later when there's time. Don't initiate a discussion if you don't have time to actually discuss something.
2) Don't issue landing clearances to an occupied runway. If you don't do that, then the aircraft on the runway can chime in when something is wrong. If it's being done routinely, the aircraft on the runway doesn't know if the landing aircraft is 10 seconds or 3 minutes from landing.