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skyhigh · Post by **skyhigh** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:45 am

Showing 52 new spots.....openings in all bases (including (9) YYC and (9) YVR) except Halifax of course...great stuff for the new hires who get to choose their base off the bat.

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:42 pm

Yep... openings pretty much everywhere, on anything

untucked · Post by **untucked** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:04 pm

So, anybody know what positions were awarded in the lastest groundschool?

socrates · Post by **socrates** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:56 pm

No problem. We had 4 RJ's and 3 DH8 in YYZ and 2 RJ's and 4 DH8's YUL. It looks like 2 more courses in Ocotober. Interviews have also started up again. Here we go again!!!

Blue Yonder · Post by **Blue Yonder** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:10 pm

So doya figure does this bid encompass the bid in July or is this on top of that? ie, last bid had four vacancies in YYC for January...now there's four again...or does it total eight for January with another four in Feb?

Blue

untucked · Post by **untucked** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:50 pm

Thanks Socrates. Looks like only eastern spots were taken. Is that because that's all that was offered to that particular group or did they have the option to base out west and just choose not to? Just wondering how the processes works because from all other indications on this forum western sopts are available. If I'm able to get on, I'm hoping to grab one of those.

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:21 am

July's bid has come and gone. Thisis for needs that have come about after the fact- ie. This is for more Fo's in YYC, and you can bid on the new vacancies. (if there were no new slots, why could you be able to bid on them after they were awarded?).

tbone · Post by **tbone** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:37 am

Hello..
First of all, I appologize if my questions have been answered elsewhere on this forum.. I did do a bit of search, but I got lazy! LOL.
I have been called for an interview, and to be honest, I'm trying to find out some information before doing an interview.
1) What are the chances of getting YYZ on a CRJ? (I know that the answer will prolly be.. "no guarantees, you bid on it when you got to groundschool"...How is seniority determined in groundschool (age? Social security, ?)...do they make decisions based on your experience or something?

2) How is the pay in 2nd year? What is the estimated (rough) upgrade time.

3) Is there still a sim eval as the last part of the interview?

4) If I were to get YYZ what is the call out time to the airport? 1.5 hours? 2?

Thanks for all the questions.... I appreciate it.

Cheers all.

Glen Quagmire · Post by **Glen Quagmire** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:03 am

tbone wrote:Hello..
First of all, I appologize if my questions have been answered elsewhere on this forum.. I did do a bit of search, but I got lazy! LOL.
I have been called for an interview, and to be honest, I'm trying to find out some information before doing an interview.
1) What are the chances of getting YYZ on a CRJ? (I know that the answer will prolly be.. "no guarantees, you bid on it when you got to groundschool"...How is seniority determined in groundschool (age? Social security, ?)...do they make decisions based on your experience or something?

2) How is the pay in 2nd year? What is the estimated (rough) upgrade time.

3) Is there still a sim eval as the last part of the interview?

4) If I were to get YYZ what is the call out time to the airport? 1.5 hours? 2?

Thanks for all the questions.... I appreciate it.

Cheers all.

1. RJ YYZ is still open, 8 spots I think, probably more. They put all the names in a hat and draw, first picked gets top seniority and chooses a/c and base first.

2. 2nd year pay is around 42K

3. Yes

4. 2 hrs

skyhigh · Post by **skyhigh** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:45 am

The pay for the first 2 years are a little deceiving....1st year starting pay is $35,200 but that is for 75 hrs....but a few guys (myself included) got to hold a block right away and fly around 83 credit hrs a month. That averages out to almost $40000 per year for your first year....plus $750 per month for per diems. Good Luck.....

Localizer · Post by **Localizer** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:42 am

Tbone ...

When did you get the call .....

Thankz

Loc

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:54 am

I'm almost clearing 3K a month (Salary + perdiums + natural block growth) so it's better then it sounds. If your on reserve and not flying, it's 2K a month.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:54 pm

The vast majority of these spots are DH8

Squid · Post by **Squid** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:47 pm

KAG wrote:I'm almost clearing 3K a month (Salary + perdiums + natural block growth) so it's better then it sounds. If your on reserve and not flying, it's 2K a month.

how can you even count perdiems? what do you eat? natural block growth isn't something that is always there and to be counted on. It is crap pay and the lifestyle with that crap pay matches it. Throw in a yyz mortgage an(if you qualify)or a commute with the odd hotel or pay for a crash pad and a seven year upgrade. This is reality. I don't mean to disrespect you KAG but you just made a shit sandwich.

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:01 pm

Squid wrote:
KAG wrote:I'm almost clearing 3K a month (Salary + perdiums + natural block growth) so it's better then it sounds. If your on reserve and not flying, it's 2K a month.
how can you even count perdiems? what do you eat? natural block growth isn't something that is always there and to be counted on. It is crap pay and the lifestyle with that crap pay matches it. Throw in a yyz mortgage an(if you qualify)or a commute with the odd hotel or pay for a crash pad and a seven year upgrade. This is reality. I don't mean to disrespect you KAG but you just made a shit sandwich.

I'll be the first to say the pay aint great (slight understatement). Since I don't drink much on my overnights, nor eat expensive diners I save a fair amount of my perdium.
You also can't count on natural block growth, but I average 10-12 hours a month. The salary is pretty bad on paper but you end up taking home a bit more if you can hold a block. it's not great but it's better then what you think your going to get.
This is a good job, but has it's issues. Pay being the biggest one.

2low · Post by **2low** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:15 pm

I have to agree with KAG. I drink my face off and eat all the expensive dinners I can and I still take home a desent amount of $$$$. The first year suck but if you can put up with it you can come out on top. I am even hammerd right now sittin in YQT. desent...lol

skyhigh · Post by **skyhigh** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:50 pm

a few guys end up packing food for the 4 days.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:01 pm

I think the point KAg is making is that the pay isn't as bad as it is made out to be. By the time I figure my expenses (food and commuting), I find I only make slightly less than my old job. Going from 60K to 35K wasn't quite as hard as I thought it would be.

qwert · Post by **qwert** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:30 pm

I'd cry if i had to go from 60k to 35k... No, actually I'd quit... When does it stop... id like to have a life now

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:05 pm

A point you need to adress, is where will you be in 10 years. My concern was that I didn't want to be still in Charter

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Traf · Post by **Traf** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:29 pm

qwert, I would cry if 60k was the best I was ever going to make. Two sides to every story.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:27 pm

Traf wrote:qwert, I would cry if 60k was the best I was ever going to make. Two sides to every story.

Good!

gonefishin' · Post by **gonefishin'** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:08 pm

toolow_flaps wrote:I have to agree with KAG. I drink my face off and eat all the expensive dinners I can and I still take home a desent amount of $$$$. The first year suck but if you can put up with it you can come out on top. I am even hammerd right now sittin in YQT. desent...lol

Snatch... thought you only had a 4 hour layover with WJ in YQT!?!?!

Traf · Post by **Traf** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:02 am

4 hours is plenty of time to have a few rounds of beers!!! BURRRRRP!!

2low · Post by **2low** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:33 am

These so called vacations will soon be my death.

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