Which Flying School to Choose - For student from India

santhoshknn · Post by **santhoshknn** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:41 am

Hello All,
Thanks to Google, i found this forum. Seems to be a wonderful resource pool for all the dreaming wannabe flyers out here in India. I am Santhosh and i am from India. I'm planning to get a CPL and after lots of googling and discussions found that Canada is better in terms of Costs as well as the quality of Training involved.
I'd be more than happy if you can guide me to a Good Flying School which i can choose for my Training. Here are few pointers that i'd like to mention

1. I just wanna get my Flying Lessons and eventually get a CPL and not any Degree.
2. Would be better if the training is of good quality & cost effective.
3. Would be good if there is some Ground School Training as well

I am still in the initial phases of getting ready for the training (I am into Software right now) and thanks to the DGCA(Directorate General of Civil Aviation) the rules have changed here in India. I 'd 've to go for a PPL before giving Ground Tests and getting a PPL alone is very very very costly in India.
One of the guys from India, with whom i spoke to, mentioned that he is doing his training in Canadian Flyers Internationl, Toronto.He 'd mentioned that its good. Can you guys advice me on that School as well.

Thanks
Santhosh K
Wannabe Flyer

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:21 am

Start here. It lists alot of threads on choosing flight schools...

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=12463

My advice, if you really want to save money, stay away from the big cities, costs alot to live there. (Vancouver and Toronto are really expensive)

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:56 am

The weather is an important consideration.

Parts of Canada get insanely cold in the winter ... -30C is perfectly normal. You may find that a big change from India, where +30C is normal!

The swings of temperature are greatest, the further you are away from the oceans, which moderate the temperature greatly. The east (atlantic ocean) and west (pacific ocean) coasts of Canada have much more moderate temperatures, but are plagued by rain and fog much of the year, which is not what you want.

Personally, I'd recommend Florida for year-round training - Canadians flee en masse to Florida in the winter.

If you must train in Canada, I would recommend the spring (just before summer - may/june) or the fall (sept/oct) away from the oceans. It can get pretty hot in central Canada in july/aug, but you may be used to that from India.

As mentioned, the farther away from the big city that you are, the cheaper the flight training. It is of no advantage to you, to try to train in a busy, expensive area.

I have no association with them - never even visited or talked to them - but if you want to train in Canada, I might suggest something like:

http://www.harvsair.com

during the months of may/june/sept/oct or perhaps july/aug. They are in the prairies, away from the ocean, so lots of VFR days, and they're away from the big city, so the prices should be lower.

Unless you are insane, I would not suggest flight training in Canada during dec/jan/feb and even nov/march/april can be pretty cold, rainy and dreadful.

Like I said, Florida year-round is where you should also look. I've done a lot of flying there, and there are a lot of accents on the radio.

B-rad · Post by **B-rad** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:12 am

5x5 · Post by **5x5** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:55 am

Didya happen to read it on the notepad in front of you?

767 · Post by **767** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:13 pm

simple:

you got 3 choices:

1. brampton
2. boundry bay (pro IFR -- located in british columbia)
3. any accreddited flight college in canada ( seneca, confederation, etc.)

good luck...

RVR6000 · Post by **RVR6000** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:27 pm

Harv's has many promotional videos on youtube.com you might want to check them out.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:16 pm

1. brampton

Not sure what sets Brampton apart. It's close to Toronto, so busy and expensive. Plus I've met enough really strange people from Brampton that I can't help but think there's something in the water. Maybe it's just Toronto.

2. boundry bay (pro IFR -- located in british columbia)

See above comments about training on the (west) coast. Moderate temperatures year round, but you can spend a lot of time on the ground watching it rain, too.

3. any accreddited flight college in canada ( seneca, confederation, etc.)

Not sure a puppy mill is the best choice for an overseas student. They take many years to complete their program, don't issue a degree, and the tuition may be quite hefty for a foreigner. Not the best combination.

www.montair.com

Never heard of them. In BC or British Columbia which is the westernmost province of Canada, and is on the west (pacific ocean) coast. See above.

China Instructor · Post by **China Instructor** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:29 pm

If I understand our Indian friend correctly, he just wants a CPL and not multi IFR. Indian airlines will hire their nationals with just this.

I would recommend B.P. Flight Training with bases in Midland and Parry Sound. Cost of living is cheaper up there and cost of flight training also. It's a small school so you won't get lost in the shuffle so to speak.

They will take good care of you and give you as good a quality of flight training you could ever want. I worked there for a short time and can say that the operations main objective is to provide quality flight training. Unlike some other bigger schools which often seem to scam people.

http://www.bpflighttraining.com

B-rad · Post by **B-rad** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:01 pm

B-rad · Post by **B-rad** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:06 pm

C-GPFG · Post by **C-GPFG** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:38 pm

Give Toronto Airways a call: 905-477-8110 and ask for John Davis. We just bought a nearby townhouse for foreign students like yourself.

http://www.torontoairways.com

ski_bum · Post by **ski_bum** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:57 pm

Go to Harvs Air in Manitoba, I used to instruct there, the bulk of the students are from India all with the same mission as you, to get done ASAP. Talk to Adam Penner there he will help you out with all the details. They have lots of aircraft, instructors and on-site accomidations.

http://www.harvsair.com

N2 · Post by N2 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:23 pm

I personally wouldn't recommend the Southern Ontario, too many crap flying days. Go west young man!

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:32 pm

klm691heavy wrote:simple:

you got 3 choices:

1. brampton
2. boundry bay (pro IFR -- located in british columbia)
3. any accreddited flight college in canada ( seneca, confederation, etc.)

good luck...

Yeah, nowhere else in the country offers flight training...

Way to post, no post.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:34 pm

I'd suggest the school with an Indian instructor.

RVR6000 · Post by **RVR6000** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:37 pm

cyyz wrote:I'd suggest the school with an Indian instructor.

Which is??

RVR6000 · Post by **RVR6000** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:39 pm

Why not out East, Moncton Flight College. You get fly new airplanes at almost the same price as cessna's. Btw its all tax-free, because they are a non-profit organization.

scubasoj · Post by **scubasoj** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:09 pm

check out Algonquin flight center:

http://www.algonquinflightcentre.com/

http://www.priacademy.com/

Good program so far, small school but expanding. They are working with PRI and getting a lot of international students due to the high costs of pilot training in europe.

good luck!

Slappy the Squirrel · Post by **Slappy the Squirrel** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:25 pm

Pretty sure this guy is gonna get confused... We've pretty much listed all the flight schools in the country. My recommendation? We have this thing in Canada called Enie, Meenie, Miney, Mo!

767 · Post by **767** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:45 pm

Hedley wrote:
1. brampton
Not sure what sets Brampton apart. It's close to Toronto, so busy and expensive. Plus I've met enough really strange people from Brampton that I can't help but think there's something in the water. Maybe it's just Toronto.

why is it so busy? whats the main reason? do all the strange people go there??

anyways, alot of students from india (including myself, although born in canada) come to brampton, and at the moment theres plenty and it is expected that a whole bunch will arrive soon.

N2 · Post by N2 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:29 pm

Just ducky!

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:00 pm

klm691heavy wrote:
Hedley wrote:
1. brampton
Not sure what sets Brampton apart. It's close to Toronto, so busy and expensive. Plus I've met enough really strange people from Brampton that I can't help but think there's something in the water. Maybe it's just Toronto.
why is it so busy? whats the main reason? do all the strange people go there??

anyways, alot of students from india (including myself, although born in canada) come to brampton, and at the moment theres plenty and it is expected that a whole bunch will arrive soon.

Stay away from Brampton, apparently they'll be getting a shipment of Indians..

Which means, no planes available, all the planes are already overpriced, if all the planes are out flying, that means the airport will be full of circuit traffic and you'll be sitting on the ground logging taxi/ground/idle time(which is fine for the book, not so much for the knowledge).

Find a small quiet airport that will have cheap housing in the area.

Brampton isn't an ideal pick....

santhoshknn · Post by **santhoshknn** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:08 am

Hello All,
Obviously i'm confused a Lot.A whole lot if you were in my position. But based on the advice, i plan to look into the following.

1. Victoria Flying Club
2. Harv's Air
3. Canadian Academy of Aeronautics
4 and possibly Moncton Flying COllege

And i just dont need a CPL, but need Night Rating, Instrument Rating and Multi -Engine Rating as well.
And whats it to go west. I am very bad in geography so can someone guide me?

Thanks
Santhosh K

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:58 am

Canada's pretty big. When people say 'west' they generally mean the western provinces, closer to the Pacific ocean. British Columbia and Alberta are generally considered 'western', some people might also include Sasketchewan and Manitoba as west, or might call them 'praries' or 'central'.

These links might help a bit.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 8&z=4&om=1
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... =1&iwloc=A
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... =1&iwloc=A
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 8&z=4&om=1

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