alcohal..and how good it tastes

anywaiss · Post by **anywaiss** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:07 pm

is it really bad that beer is the first thing i think of when i get home from a day of flying? before i even get my shoes off i have a beer in my hand. it's not like this is a one time thing... this is EVERY DAY. .... so this gets me to thinking: does flying make me want to drink? i hate to say it but the answer is..............OH MY GOD YES. even at parts during my day sometimes i think to my self ....."self.. i need a drink so bad right now"..

ex. "gear up... shit the gear is not up.. gear down...gear up.. shit it still isnt' up.. god i need a drink right now"

or
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"'this is winnipeg airport information alpha...weather 1500z, wind calm visibility 1/8 mile blowing snow'.......fuuuckkkk i need a drink...."

anywaiss · Post by **anywaiss** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:11 pm

wind calm and blowing snow. haha i neeeeeeeeeeeed a drink right now

RatherBeFlyingInCanada · Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:23 am

It just means your an Alchoholic.

185/310 · Post by **185/310** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:30 am

Problem is you fly a Ho single pilot so u have nobody to talk to....unless you talk to the indian beside you. Either way, its gona cause u to drink. I did.

Idriveplane · Post by **Idriveplane** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:20 am

I think most of us come home after a days work or BS and crave a nice brew. MMMMMMMM BEEEEEEEER, GOOOOOOOOD

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:27 am

RatherBeFlyingInCanada wrote:It just means your an Alchoholic.

No, Alcoholics go to meetings.

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:19 am

anywaiss wrote:is it really bad that beer is the first thing i think of when i get home from a day of flying? before i even get my shoes off i have a beer in my hand. it's not like this is a one time thing... this is EVERY DAY. .... so this gets me to thinking: does flying make me want to drink? i hate to say it but the answer is..............OH MY GOD YES. even at parts during my day sometimes i think to my self ....."self.. i need a drink so bad right now"..

ex. "gear up... shit the gear is not up.. gear down...gear up.. shit it still isnt' up.. god i need a drink right now"

or
.

"'this is winnipeg airport information alpha...weather 1500z, wind calm visibility 1/8 mile blowing snow'.......fuuuckkkk i need a drink...."

I'm usually thinking about what i'm going to drink about 200 miles out...Get ATIS, select TOL card, set EFIS control panel, freq's, "what am I going to drink", Program FMS, set HCP.
And like any good approach planning, I get home, and do as I planned without any deviations.

Icebound · Post by **Icebound** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:59 am

anywaiss wrote:is it really bad that beer is the first thing i think of when i get home from a day of flying? before i even get my shoes off i have a beer in my hand. it's not like this is a one time thing... this is EVERY DAY. ....

LOL.

I tried to find it in the study notes, but nowhere does it have the correct answer to the medical examination question: "How many drinks per week?"

ch135146 · Post by **ch135146** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:08 am

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:50 pm

The trick is... to have your dockhand pass you an open beer as you step off the float on the last trip of the day!

x-wind · Post by **x-wind** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:49 pm

Just did my instructor written and one of the questions was: "How long after excessive alcohol consumption should a pilot wait before flying according to the AIM?"

Obviously its an important subject.

Idriveplane · Post by **Idriveplane** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:56 pm

8 hrs bottle to throttle

Pie Lot · Post by **Pie Lot** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:04 pm

200hr Wonder · Post by **200hr Wonder** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:42 pm

The 8 hour rule is a complete and utter fallacy and I really wish people would quite preaching 8 hours bottle to throttle. 8 Hour is the MINIMUM amount of time that you are required to wait. 602.03(b) clearly states No person shall act as a crew member of an aircraft while under the influence of alcohol. Know I do not know about you but I have been on a few benders in my time and there have been occasions when I was still under the influence of alcohol in the 24 to 36 hour arena. If you drink anything at all you must wait until you are no longer under the influence which means that your blood is free of alcohol or you have a 0.00% reading during a blood test. For some this can be quite a period depending on the amount consumed. Remember people you must comply with subsections a b and c of the regs. Oh and the number they where looking for was found in Air 3.11

Alcohol or Drugs - Crew Members

602.03 No person shall act as a crew member of an aircraft

(a) within eight hours after consuming an alcoholic beverage;

(b) while under the influence of alcohol; or

(c) while using any drug that impairs the person's faculties to the extent that the safety of the aircraft or of persons on board the aircraft is endangered in any way.

AIR 3.11 Alcohol
Never fly while under the influence of alcohol or drugs. It
is best to allow at least 24 hours between the last drink and
takeoff time, and at least 48 hours after excessive drinking.
Alcohol is selectively concentrated by the body into certain
areas and remains in the fluid of the inner ear even after all
traces of alcohol in the blood have disappeared. This accounts
for the difficulty in balance that is experienced in a hangover.
Even small amounts of alcohol (0.05%) have been shown in
simulators to reduce piloting skills. The effect of alcohol and
hypoxia is additive and at 6 000 feet ASL (1 829 m), the effect
of one drink is equivalent to two drinks at sea level. The body
metabolizes alcohol at a fixed rate and no amount of coffee,
medication or oxygen will alter this rate. ALCOHOL AND
FLYING DO NOT MIX.

Pie Lot · Post by **Pie Lot** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:53 pm

200hr Wonder · Post by **200hr Wonder** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:56 pm

Pie Lot

Not the point, just with regards to the question per the exam. We are all human. This is strictly with regards to the regs and the question asked by X-Wind with regards to an exam. Oh and no I would night fly severely hung over... a few beers after work is one thing but I would not put my self into the position of having to call the chief to say I can't fly cause I was irresponsible and had a few too many the night before. You know missing work because of drinking is a sigh of alcoholism.

schlumph · Post by **schlumph** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:02 pm

Beer eh?

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I cannot drink it anymore

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I have a terrible allergy to it

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I get sick after the 1st dozen

185/310 · Post by **185/310** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:02 pm

Do u think alot of people follow this rule to the letter, 8 hrs bottle to throttle. Ever heard of the saying 8 feet bottle to throttle. Ive seen countless pilots drinking when they have a flight less then 8 hrs, im not saying its right but thats the real world on how things are done. The bottom line is pilots drink, alot, who cares.

Pie Lot · Post by **Pie Lot** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:04 pm

Pie Lot · Post by **Pie Lot** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:06 pm

2low · Post by **2low** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:53 pm

I can't believe you think its funny and ok to drink inside of 8 hours. It's not funny and certainly not professional. That's how its done in the real world? WTF are you kidding me.

This kind of attitude carries over to the airline level and before you know it, pilot's are back in the news because of a foolish few.

It takes responsibility to know when to stop drinking. You are nothing without your integrity. Give your head a shake.

185/310 · Post by **185/310** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:04 pm

take her easy buddy.....have a cold one.

Blakey · Post by **Blakey** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:15 pm

Pie Lot wrote:200HR Left Coast Wonder:

You are just looking to get flamed aren't you. Or you have never worked in a job that didnt include calling downwind 30 times a day.

Not saying it's according to CARS, but I dont know anyone, including some TC people I know that have waited 36 hours after a good night to fly.

I can just hear it now. Hey CP ____ It's The Fox here....went on a good one a few days ago when some of the boys were out from YYZ. Had a blast Fri night and I knows it's Tues morning...but I really did tie one on with old Ernie and the Astronaut there, and anyway...still feeling a little hung. So according to CARS 6whatever...I better not fly. U understand I'm sure...LOL!!! YEAH RIGHT!!!! LOL LOL LOL HAHAHA

If you drink to the point where you can not live up to your responsibilities, you are a drunk and a fool! And it WILL catch up to you. I guarantee it and I've seen it happen too many times already. It's OK to go out with the boys at night, just so long as you get up and go to work with the men in the morning. If you ever made that call to me, I'd tell you to take the day off. In fact, I'd tell you to take them all off starting today!

2low · Post by **2low** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:25 pm

185/310 wrote:take her easy buddy.....have a cold one.

I do......When it's legal.

anywaiss · Post by **anywaiss** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:16 pm

Pie Lot wrote:Or you have never worked in a job that didnt include calling downwind 30 times a day.

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