Everyone knows what Cat Driver thinks of transport, but lately I have read some more of DOC's posts and came to the conclusion that he is just as bitter at the rules as Cat.
My question is this.
Should Cat and Doc join transport and bring back the good ole days of when regualations actually made sense.
I say hell yeah, do it boys
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Flyinghigh, your poll is no problem, however your reading and comprehension abilities are at the level of grade 3.
Maybe you should go back and read my posts and you will find my problems are not with the rules but with some of TC's top management.
If you or anyone else here can find one instance in my career where I had a problem with the rules I want to see it.
Of coures I will have to admit CAR's are a real mish mash of rules that are so difficult to follow even TC can't agree on what exactly they say........
....Doc seems a little bent about the approach ban and it seems he has a point...but it does not affect my life anymore.
So flyinghigh once more it's not the rules that bother me it is a few scum that are in charge....O.K.?
You got that?
Maybe you should go back and read my posts and you will find my problems are not with the rules but with some of TC's top management.
If you or anyone else here can find one instance in my career where I had a problem with the rules I want to see it.
Of coures I will have to admit CAR's are a real mish mash of rules that are so difficult to follow even TC can't agree on what exactly they say........
....Doc seems a little bent about the approach ban and it seems he has a point...but it does not affect my life anymore.
So flyinghigh once more it's not the rules that bother me it is a few scum that are in charge....O.K.?
You got that?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
There are a lot of decent honest conscientious people at Transport Canada.Who have contributed to the safety of the transport system quietly and without complaint .
A tough job .
Do something and you are hated by some
Do nothing and you are hated by some
I guess i am lucky i have only met the nice ones over the years and there a lot of them.Who have gone out of their way to help get the job done safely.
A tough job .
Do something and you are hated by some
Do nothing and you are hated by some
I guess i am lucky i have only met the nice ones over the years and there a lot of them.Who have gone out of their way to help get the job done safely.
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Niss, please don't insult me, my position on TC is quite clear.
And if you are trying to be a smart ass SOB, for your information I have been flying for over 54 years and never ever had an accident or a violation of the rules so go pound salt kid.
Some of the top management at TC are dishonest abusers of the power of office they hold and should be removed from their jobs for the good of not only the industry but those in TC who are decent people.
The DGCA and the RD of the Pacific Region fall into this catagory.
It is fine for those of you to sit behind your computers and slag me for trying to get rid of a few TC thugs, but please answer one simple question for me.
If what I am stating is untrue, why is it that they do not charge me with lible?
2R :
So just because you personally have not been on the receiving end of vindictive corrupt dishonest TC people in positions of power are you saying that nothing needs to be done about them?
I just about throw up reading all the pablum about " Oh I have never had any problems with TC, why they are really nice helpful people who make my job better"
Hopefully some of you will meet the bad ones soon and get reamed out real good....
How many of you have owned aviation companies and been in a position to have to deal with the thug mentality all to common in TC?
And if you are trying to be a smart ass SOB, for your information I have been flying for over 54 years and never ever had an accident or a violation of the rules so go pound salt kid.
Some of the top management at TC are dishonest abusers of the power of office they hold and should be removed from their jobs for the good of not only the industry but those in TC who are decent people.
The DGCA and the RD of the Pacific Region fall into this catagory.
It is fine for those of you to sit behind your computers and slag me for trying to get rid of a few TC thugs, but please answer one simple question for me.
If what I am stating is untrue, why is it that they do not charge me with lible?
2R :
So just because you personally have not been on the receiving end of vindictive corrupt dishonest TC people in positions of power are you saying that nothing needs to be done about them?
I just about throw up reading all the pablum about " Oh I have never had any problems with TC, why they are really nice helpful people who make my job better"
Hopefully some of you will meet the bad ones soon and get reamed out real good....
How many of you have owned aviation companies and been in a position to have to deal with the thug mentality all to common in TC?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Cat,
I have never for a second doubted your capacity as a pilot or as a rule follower.
My smug remark was intended as being a smart ass SOB, but with no disrespect intended. Apparantly such humour is not well conveyed with out the tone of voice avaiable. My apologies.
Just like in the other thread "you want to learn about islam, dont study muslims, study islam" You think the rules are fine, just the rule makers and enforcers are dickheads. I see no problem with it.
I have never for a second doubted your capacity as a pilot or as a rule follower.
My smug remark was intended as being a smart ass SOB, but with no disrespect intended. Apparantly such humour is not well conveyed with out the tone of voice avaiable. My apologies.
Just like in the other thread "you want to learn about islam, dont study muslims, study islam" You think the rules are fine, just the rule makers and enforcers are dickheads. I see no problem with it.
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Niss......I knew that, I just wanted a few morons who read this to get the message....My smug remark was intended as being a smart ass SOB, but with no disrespect intended. Apparantly such humour is not well conveyed with out the tone of voice avaiable. My apologies.
....no problem....
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
LOLNiss wrote:
I guess the lesson here is not to say anything, even that which is patently obvious as humor, to Cat
And while we are at it Cat, I have had some serious bad run ins with TC over the years. So dont tell me I am a moron who does not know what he is talking about. But to be balanced, particularily in the last year, I have met some very helpful people at TC. Libel and Slander are actionable civil iissues. Rather than rant and rave and cut off anyone (even those like Niss who were only trying to inject some humor) who dares to disagree with you as unknowledgeable morons, why dont you take some positive action. Deal with TC in the appropriate way rather than trying to convert the masses here. It wont happen...the new ones coming up all are taught from day one to chant the TC GOOD. TC SAFE mantra as well as being instilled with the fear of retribution.
My rant...I thought your reply to Niss was totally inappropriate.
I think many of us saw your attempt at humor Niss, and I, for one, thought it kind of humerous.so what are you trying to say cat? your not a big fan of the rules?
I guess the lesson here is not to say anything, even that which is patently obvious as humor, to Cat
And while we are at it Cat, I have had some serious bad run ins with TC over the years. So dont tell me I am a moron who does not know what he is talking about. But to be balanced, particularily in the last year, I have met some very helpful people at TC. Libel and Slander are actionable civil iissues. Rather than rant and rave and cut off anyone (even those like Niss who were only trying to inject some humor) who dares to disagree with you as unknowledgeable morons, why dont you take some positive action. Deal with TC in the appropriate way rather than trying to convert the masses here. It wont happen...the new ones coming up all are taught from day one to chant the TC GOOD. TC SAFE mantra as well as being instilled with the fear of retribution.
My rant...I thought your reply to Niss was totally inappropriate.
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Well trey kule for several years I did exactly that until I ran out of money....went through every legal avenue avaliable.Deal with TC in the appropriate way rather than trying to convert the masses here
All I got for my efforts was a legally binding finding that TC denied me due process, you know....due process in other words they admitted to having been in violation of the basic concept of law.
Of course they are, however for anyone to prove libel ( written ) slander ( spoken ) they must convince a court that what was written or spoken was untrue.Libel and Slander are actionable civil iissues.
You must admit that I have offered those whom I have identified in writing to sue me for lible.
Any idea why they don't?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Simply put, rules are a codified method of acceptable behaviour.
The 10 commandments (apologies to Monty Python) are such.
I fully support the highway rules that define stopping at stop signs, red lights, and not speeding in built up areas. I then have firm grounds for believing that at intersections, I can define right of way.
The CARS are a similar codified outline of acceptable aviation behaviour which I support. I confess to having been bewildered by some of the ways they are expressed, but, like Cat and others, I support their requirement.
It astonishes me the number of times we go around and around on this. Certainly, some people miss posts, but others just never seem to get it.
There is a civil service code of behaviour and ethics. There are penalties for transgressing this code, including dismissal.
Despite legal victories and cast-iron complaints , the upper management of TCCA have repeatedly represented a dishonest, immoral and unethical stance which disgraces the Minister. Not only outsiders like us, but ex-Transport employees do not like the way things have gone over the past few years.
These people have launched an environment of tyranny. They refuse to be examined for truth, which can only have one reason.
It is beyond time for change. We need representation that does not require six-figure lawyer bills to seek redress for perceived wrongs.
The 10 commandments (apologies to Monty Python) are such.
I fully support the highway rules that define stopping at stop signs, red lights, and not speeding in built up areas. I then have firm grounds for believing that at intersections, I can define right of way.
The CARS are a similar codified outline of acceptable aviation behaviour which I support. I confess to having been bewildered by some of the ways they are expressed, but, like Cat and others, I support their requirement.
It astonishes me the number of times we go around and around on this. Certainly, some people miss posts, but others just never seem to get it.
There is a civil service code of behaviour and ethics. There are penalties for transgressing this code, including dismissal.
Despite legal victories and cast-iron complaints , the upper management of TCCA have repeatedly represented a dishonest, immoral and unethical stance which disgraces the Minister. Not only outsiders like us, but ex-Transport employees do not like the way things have gone over the past few years.
These people have launched an environment of tyranny. They refuse to be examined for truth, which can only have one reason.
It is beyond time for change. We need representation that does not require six-figure lawyer bills to seek redress for perceived wrongs.
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Would it be unreasonable to expect the Minister of Transport to be accountable for ensuring the law is upheld within the offices of TCCA?It is beyond time for change. We need representation that does not require six-figure lawyer bills to seek redress for perceived wrongs.
Or is the fix in so deep that even our elected ministers are impotent in representing the Canadian citizen?
If that is the situation we are really in trouble, what is next fear of arrest for exposing morally corrupt civil servants?Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
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3. without force or effectiveness.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Cat:
I understand your frustration. And from personal experience I know that contacting the Minister is a waste of time. Simply gets shuffled to an aide who then refers it back to TC, who justify their logic and actions, and then the aide writes and tells you to go away.
I dont think, as I have told Widow also, that this approach will work.
So the question really becomes what will work?
How about this. We start a forum for complaints of TC behavior. We ask those who complain if they will put the complaint in writing with documentation, and then we submit it to a member of the opposition to bring it forward. This way the minister can not ignore it. And with a large group (hopefully), it will give credibility to the complaint.
So how about it. Cat, Doc Heldley et al....?
The issue however, will have to have an action plan to it.
The member can ask the Minister why the Minister is not responding to complaints about TC's employees, but that will only result in the ususal political blow off, or be referred to....yes TC.
What needs to be asked is if the Minister will appoint an independent person to investigate these complaints.
some time and work involved but I think it is better than all of us ranting like a bunch of eunuchs.
Is this such a bad idea?
I understand your frustration. And from personal experience I know that contacting the Minister is a waste of time. Simply gets shuffled to an aide who then refers it back to TC, who justify their logic and actions, and then the aide writes and tells you to go away.
I dont think, as I have told Widow also, that this approach will work.
So the question really becomes what will work?
How about this. We start a forum for complaints of TC behavior. We ask those who complain if they will put the complaint in writing with documentation, and then we submit it to a member of the opposition to bring it forward. This way the minister can not ignore it. And with a large group (hopefully), it will give credibility to the complaint.
So how about it. Cat, Doc Heldley et al....?
The issue however, will have to have an action plan to it.
The member can ask the Minister why the Minister is not responding to complaints about TC's employees, but that will only result in the ususal political blow off, or be referred to....yes TC.
What needs to be asked is if the Minister will appoint an independent person to investigate these complaints.
some time and work involved but I think it is better than all of us ranting like a bunch of eunuchs.
Is this such a bad idea?
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Trey Kule:
Your idea is excellent and workable.
All that remains is to find those who will step foward and be part of the solution.
This is the biggest wall to climb over.
When Preuss and Sincennes realized I was a danger to their careers I received a call from of all people the Director General Transport Canada.
( actually it was someone who was acting on behalf of and claimed to have all the power of the Director General , so in effect it was the Director General. )
As a sign of his desire to as he put it " Bring closure to these issues " he agreed to meet with me in my home.
After a year and a half of being run in circles all I ended up with was an admission that TC had broken the very laws they were sworn to uphold.
But what I really find reprehensible is this individual reneged on his offer to request treasury to reimburse me for my losses if the investigation of my allegations proved to be true.
He told both me and my wife with witnesses present that he had the authority to see that I was reimbursed, all I had to do was agree to an independent investigaton of my complaints against TCCA through his office.
All the issues in my complaint were found to be true and it was admitted by TC that their top people were dishonest and in contrevention of their own rules and policies.......
......however in another meeting with the DG that lasted all day he reneged on his promise to see to it that I be reimbursed for my losses, where does one draw the line between a high ranking government employee who renegs on a promise and an out and out liar?...
It is my personal opinion that the DG knew that he could not follow up on his promise to see that I would be reimbursed for the moneys stolen from me by Nowzek and Preuss and it was nothing more than a ploy to get me to agree to an internal TC investigation of their own.
So my experience convinced me that the mafia has more integrity than the office of the Director General Transport Canada....
So much for fairness from TC.
Your idea is excellent and workable.
All that remains is to find those who will step foward and be part of the solution.
This is the biggest wall to climb over.
This was what finally drove the last nail into my coffin.or be referred to....yes TC.
When Preuss and Sincennes realized I was a danger to their careers I received a call from of all people the Director General Transport Canada.
( actually it was someone who was acting on behalf of and claimed to have all the power of the Director General , so in effect it was the Director General. )
As a sign of his desire to as he put it " Bring closure to these issues " he agreed to meet with me in my home.
After a year and a half of being run in circles all I ended up with was an admission that TC had broken the very laws they were sworn to uphold.
But what I really find reprehensible is this individual reneged on his offer to request treasury to reimburse me for my losses if the investigation of my allegations proved to be true.
He told both me and my wife with witnesses present that he had the authority to see that I was reimbursed, all I had to do was agree to an independent investigaton of my complaints against TCCA through his office.
All the issues in my complaint were found to be true and it was admitted by TC that their top people were dishonest and in contrevention of their own rules and policies.......
......however in another meeting with the DG that lasted all day he reneged on his promise to see to it that I be reimbursed for my losses, where does one draw the line between a high ranking government employee who renegs on a promise and an out and out liar?...
It is my personal opinion that the DG knew that he could not follow up on his promise to see that I would be reimbursed for the moneys stolen from me by Nowzek and Preuss and it was nothing more than a ploy to get me to agree to an internal TC investigation of their own.
So my experience convinced me that the mafia has more integrity than the office of the Director General Transport Canada....
So much for fairness from TC.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Disclaimer: this situation is in no way funny. However.....Cat Driver wrote:...Would it be unreasonable to expect the Minister of Transport to be accountable for ensuring the law is upheld within the offices of TCCA?...
It reminds me of the British comedy series "Yes, Minister" (and its sequel "Yes, Prime Minister"). The show was about the relationship between the high-level, career civil servants (who 'actually' run the government), and the elected officials (who 'think' they run the government).
It was hilarious (for those of us who appreciate the dry, british sense of humour) to watch the character Sir Humphrey (a "Permanent Secretary") masterfully manipulate James Hacker, MP (Minister in the Department of Administrative Affairs) into doing what he wanted. This manipulation was done using "The Art of Diplomacy", which he described as "....letting someone else have your way".
It was funny, classic stuff!
.... But somewhat less funny in real life I'm afraid.
Cheers,
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What if I volunteer to collate the information? What if Doc, Hedley, Cat, Snaproll, Trey Kule, and everyone else who has a legitimate complaint forwards a synopsis to me and I put it all together? We post it here for comments and suggestions and then, What if we send it to the minister, the transport critics AND the ethics officers (let's find out who THEY work for)? I am prepared to do this. Seriously.
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Thank you Widow.That is really quite nice of you to make such an offer.
So what would you like to start? A simple one page narrative?
Rather than post these, as I think that might give the CYA folks in TC a heads up, would it be to much to impose on you to vet the narratives, then ask for backup documentation. Perhaps open a hotmail account to handle this issue.
Unfortunately, I am enroute out of the country again Friday for awhile, but I will email my local MP and see if he will act as a spokesperson.
Maybe others want to do the same. Nothing like getting a group of MP's on side.
I think if everyone who has a legitimate complaint steps up to the plate, we can put them in a proper manner to the right people.
And perhaps, if all goes well, other people here will stop fearing TC and understand the enormity of the issue.
So what would you like to start? A simple one page narrative?
Rather than post these, as I think that might give the CYA folks in TC a heads up, would it be to much to impose on you to vet the narratives, then ask for backup documentation. Perhaps open a hotmail account to handle this issue.
Unfortunately, I am enroute out of the country again Friday for awhile, but I will email my local MP and see if he will act as a spokesperson.
Maybe others want to do the same. Nothing like getting a group of MP's on side.
I think if everyone who has a legitimate complaint steps up to the plate, we can put them in a proper manner to the right people.
And perhaps, if all goes well, other people here will stop fearing TC and understand the enormity of the issue.
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Ok. dhc2widow@hotmail.com is open for business. Easy enough to remember. I think a one page summary (if possible), with backup documentation is the best way to start. I should start a new thread. What should I call it? Maybe Cat should start the thread. Everybody, including those who hate him, are more likely to read his posts than anyone elses! Cat?
BTW, I already have our ex-MP (lost to NDP last election - who have not ever bothered to respond to my insistent requests, but resigned from govt office today and intends to run again) working on our behalf due to our situation. I expect he would be more than happy to help us with this too.
BTW, I already have our ex-MP (lost to NDP last election - who have not ever bothered to respond to my insistent requests, but resigned from govt office today and intends to run again) working on our behalf due to our situation. I expect he would be more than happy to help us with this too.
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