King Air B200 Current Limiter Question

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King Air B200 Current Limiter Question

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Can someone tell me why you would lose your #2 Avionics when your right current limiter is blown and both generators are on.

Replace the current limiter and #2 Avionics work again.
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Post by stopsquawk »

#2 Avionics should remain powered. Maybe there is a fault with the Avionics #2 Power Relay?
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By looking at the schematics, this doesn't make sense. As soon as the current limiter was fixed, the Number 2 avionics worked again. Everything else worked, Number 2 Inverter, Vent Blower.
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Post by impress »

Bus Diode?
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My understanding is that:

a) if something is designed to handle 325 Amps you should never try to replace it without maintenance first finding out why it blew?

and more importantly

b) I don't think you can actually replace it in flight. 50A could kill you instantly. 325 would turn you into a piece of charcoal.

From the schematic in my 200 manual the avionics number 2 bus is not dual fed. Remember diodes between the right gen bus and the 4 dual fed buses prevent reverse current, so no CL, no #2 avionics.

Make sense?
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Post by Scuba_Steve »

umm if both gen's are online I don't see how you would lose it. I don't have my schematics handy, but if you were to loose the right gen with the limiter being blown then you'd loose a few things.
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Post by harveymushman »

older kingairs sometimes have non standard wiring and they do funny things
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Post by co-joe »

Scuba_Steve wrote:umm if both gen's are online I don't see how you would lose it. I don't have my schematics handy, but if you were to loose the right gen with the limiter being blown then you'd loose a few things.
Yeah my bad. All the current limiter problems arise when one gen is off line. As long as both are on and charging then a blown CL won't cause a problem. :oops:
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co-joe wrote:My understanding is that:

a) if something is designed to handle 325 Amps you should never try to replace it without maintenance first finding out why it blew?

and more importantly

b) I don't think you can actually replace it in flight. 50A could kill you instantly. 325 would turn you into a piece of charcoal.

From the schematic in my 200 manual the avionics number 2 bus is not dual fed. Remember diodes between the right gen bus and the 4 dual fed buses prevent reverse current, so no CL, no #2 avionics.

Make sense?
Ya...I knew someone who did that in the air....quite the lightshow when the ratchet grounded out....got the pilot a company suspension and then a TC one. Absolutly the dumbest thing I have ever heard someone doing in an airplane.

BTW...if there was enough voltage to push 325 amps thru your body you would be charcoal but at 28v its unlikely you could push more that a few milliamps...across the heart it would kill you but other than that you're OK.


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Post by ei ei owe »

harveymushman wrote:older kingairs sometimes have non standard wiring and they do funny things
Older King Airs suck....
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Post by Apache64_ »

Just looking at the Simuflite manual. Couple of things. Are you talking about the 325 amp isolation limiter (also called a current limiter) or the 40Amp current limiter on the #2 Avionics Bus? If it is the 325 Amp isolation limiter I have no Idea why the #2 Avionics Bus wouldn't receive power. Simuflite states "The right Generator Bus feeds the DC Avionics bus No. 2 through a 40A current limiter and a 30A CB." So, if the 40A current limiter fails then #2 Avionics wouldn't receive power the way I read it.


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ettw wrote:
Ya...I knew someone who did that in the air....quite the lightshow when the ratchet grounded out....got the pilot a company suspension and then a TC one. Absolutly the dumbest thing I have ever heard someone doing in an airplane.
I would pay good money to see someone attempt that. Now THAT is dedication....
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Post by Scuba_Steve »

Apache64_ wrote:Just looking at the Simuflite manual. Couple of things. Are you talking about the 325 amp isolation limiter (also called a current limiter) or the 40Amp current limiter on the #2 Avionics Bus? If it is the 325 Amp isolation limiter I have no Idea why the #2 Avionics Bus wouldn't receive power. Simuflite states "The right Generator Bus feeds the DC Avionics bus No. 2 through a 40A current limiter and a 30A CB." So, if the 40A current limiter fails then #2 Avionics wouldn't receive power the way I read it.


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I don't have the diagram in front of me but if what you are saying is correct then the #2 avionics bus would not function in the event of a right gen failure and a right Current limiter failure. That is if its on the right bus and not a duel fed bus. I'll try to remember to look it up tommrow when I'm flying to swift current sask (wee!)
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Post by ottopilot »

There are 2 CB's in the wing near the inverter. One of those could be popped. But only maintenance is supposed to reset those
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