bag run out west

mattski52 · Post by **mattski52** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:05 pm

Does anybody know the operator that flies a daily bag run into Penticton....looks like they use Metroliners???? Appreciate it in advance.
Matt

short bus · Post by **short bus** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:16 pm

probably either Carson or Sunwest

boeingboy · Post by **boeingboy** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:07 am

It's not Sunwest.

They do Kelowna, Kamloops, and Victoria.

matrix · Post by **matrix** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:29 am

Carsonair

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:11 am

guys explain this to me....so they basically blast off after the airline and deliver the bags so the pax get them at or about the same time?...or do they wait and put a couple flights worth of bags on?....

Go Guns · Post by **Go Guns** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:00 am

They're moving bank courier bags.

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:57 am

Dynamic does some as well into BC.

I've been called for some subcharters for bag runs into Cranbrook.

For the question about bag runs, also, for oil work, let's say two king airs are taking crew up for a change, they may not be able to fit all their bags, so they would send another plane to take their bags.

They usually travel with hockey size bags.

sinjin · Post by **sinjin** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:18 pm

The bags that are going north out of our facility they very rarely charter another plane, they usually take it up the next day on a plane that is going to the same strip. Most of the carriers limit the weight of the bags to 70 lbs and anything over that weight (divided over all the pax) is not allowed on the flight.

As for the metros that do the bag runs they are hauling clearing house notes for banks. No monitary vallue just cancelled checks and visa slips. they arrive in the morning and then return back to Vancouvver or Calgary (which every province the flight originated in)

disengage · Post by **disengage** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:34 pm

I believe the question was what bag run flys into penticton not hat comes in or out of edmonton

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:35 pm

interesting thanks....surprised so much money is spent on this stuff.....anyway thanks for the info

Swamp Donkey · Post by **Swamp Donkey** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:04 am

Heard that each "bag" is insured to the tune of $600,000. So probably not a big waste of money.

mattski52 · Post by **mattski52** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:39 pm

for christ sakes people....i just wanted to know the name of the company that flies the bank bags into penticton, and if someone knows the daily route that aircraft takes each morn/afternoon, then that would be a bonus. i could care less about rig pig bags in edmonton.

matrix · Post by **matrix** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:46 pm

for christ sakes people....i just wanted to know the name of the company that flies the bank bags into penticton, and if someone knows the daily route that aircraft takes each morn/afternoon, then that would be a bonus. i could care less about rig pig bags in edmonton.

For the 2nd time, CARSONAIR

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:46 pm

mattski52 wrote:if someone knows the daily route that aircraft takes each morn/afternoon, then that would be a bonus.

YVR-YYF-YCG-YYF-YVR

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:24 pm

Altiplano....sorry in advance man, I'm toasting that picture.

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:07 pm

Oh - didn't think there was anything wrong with it... sorry - it was just for the "bonus" that mattski was looking for...

WhatThe? · Post by **WhatThe?** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:14 pm

It is Carson Air, based out of YVR. They actually do YVR-YYF-YLW-YCG-YYF-YLW-YVR!!! Wx permitting.

I heard they do 15 hour duty days...five days a week

. Holy crap i wouldn't want that job

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Jim N · Post by **Jim N** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:06 pm

WhatThe? wrote:It is Carson Air, based out of YVR. They actually do YVR-YYF-YLW-YCG-YYF-YLW-YVR!!! Wx permitting.

I heard they do 15 hour duty days...five days a week . Holy crap i wouldn't want that job .

That is the run and operator as I understand it too.

Fifteen hour duty days suck. I've done it before and would not willingly go back to it.

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:42 am

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:27 pm

altiplano wrote:15 hrs isn't too bad when you get to nap all day...

that is definitely true....on those days it's okay....it's the days when you have to sit in YVR all morning waiting for wx to lift in YCG (or wherever), then have to head out and you don't get your rest. But, if the day goes as planned, its bearable.

altiplano wrote:I'm sure carson gets a day room for the guys and brilliant aviation in cg has a crew car (or at least used to) that you can use, fly for a few hours in the am... watch tv, take a nap, go for lunch... fly for a few hours in the pm...

and yes, crew cars, hotel room (or crew house) are all provided...although sometimes the crew houses leave a lot to be desired.

you build lots of time, though, and get really good experience, then move on.

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:02 pm

Are they Metro II's?

How much are they paying the guys?

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:28 pm

altiplano wrote:Are they Metro II's?

Mostly....I think there are 1 or 2 III's.

altiplano wrote:How much are they paying the guys?

Not enough. It should be at least 15-20% higher for the work they do. And they do this 5 days per week, most weeks. It's too much. with a sked like that, it should be 4 days per week, max.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:10 pm

Back in the later 90's Carson used to do the YYC-Kelowna-Kamloops run, no day rooms at first, the pilots slept in the back of the Metro in the Loops for a few hours before ending up in YYC each night.... Brutal.

STL

sluggo · Post by **sluggo** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:37 pm

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:27 pm

I'm not saying it's perfect. I've been there in the past and know how it is.

BUT - I'd take long days M-F, a schedule, and be based in YVR over a lot of jobs at this level of the industry.