Questions about Air Canada interview

flyer_146 · Post by **flyer_146** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:43 pm

They ask for all your logbook hours to be certified. This would involve trying to track down logbooks for airplanes that crashed years ago as some of the companies are long gone. Other operators dislike me simply because I quit which makes me the enemy. So how would you go about getting the books certified? Track down the planes in the salvage yards and see if the logbooks are around? Talk to owners that don't even remember me and try and get a fax cover? What about airplanes you own yourself? Just self-certify your own hours? And contract work 1 month at a time? Maybe someone who's in the same position could offer some help?

They want original letters of reference but I've been single pilot now for 4 years. I haven't flown with another pilot for 5 years. Should I track down some pilot that might remember a flight with me at one time and ask for a reference. The companies I worked for before were so big that the office staff would never remember me by now and besides, the flight ops people all moved on long ago to airlines all over the world or have retired. The letters I do have were emailed which isn't really original.

I don't have a lot of time for this either so I'll take all the help I can get.

Good luck to all of you waiting....I can only imagine the stress dealing with waiting for the phone to ring that will decide the outcome of your future for the next 25 years with only a month to prepare for the move and everything else if you are chosen....

tripleseven · Post by **tripleseven** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:58 pm

I guess your not laughing at all the nerds who filled in their logbook after every flight anymore, are you?

Sarcasm aside, I know of someone in much the same predicament. One of his last bosses had a rampie go out and buy a new log book, and start filling it out using the logbooks in maintenance records.

Have fun. How much time do you have?

flyer_146 · Post by **flyer_146** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:59 pm

I have all the flights entered but not certified (up to last year). I'm not really sure of my total time but over 5,000 for sure (that's the column I checked for AC). This is going to be a nightmare! "Yes, remember me from 12 years ago? No, not that guy...the one from the ramp who rolled the company truck? Oh..you do remember me....can you certify my logbook for that plane that was sent for salvage back in '95? ...Uhmm...okay...no, I don't want a King Air job...bye..

bandit1 · Post by **bandit1** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:17 pm

I wouldn't make a big deal of it. Certify the hours yourself, it's legal in this country.

I highly doubt that AC will PFO you for that. If you make it into the interview and they like you, you should be OK.

Alot better than a looser with certified hours that has 0 people skills and shit CRM.

Don't sweat it.

flyer_146 · Post by **flyer_146** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:20 pm

. double post

tripleseven · Post by **tripleseven** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:33 pm

Just get your last employer to certify it then. How long were you at your last job? The reason I ask, is if it was like 3 years, and doing 1000 hr/yr, you could easily have 3000 of your last 5000 (or more) hours certified.

ZARCON · Post by **ZARCON** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:43 pm

I know someone who was missing a logbook with his first few hundred hours. He was asked about it in the AC interview and explained his situation. He did not think he would get a call back because of this but was contacted for a medical and course date. It would not hurt to ask the people you flew with 4 years ago for a reference. I think it is important that you get a supervisors reference because it seems it is only they that are contacted. My take on it.

flyer_146 · Post by **flyer_146** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:51 am

Present job for 4 years, previous for 2 years. The problem is that supervisors sometimes don't always fly with you and they see so many pilots over the years that they won't be able to say anything positive or negative about you as you were just another pilot.

JayDee · Post by **JayDee** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:41 am

A signature is the log book is all that is required. There is no way in hell any supervisor is going to waste their time verifying every entry.

They know how long you worked there and approximately how many hours you had to have worked to remain employed. My bet is they will just sign it off if requested to do so. All you have to do is ask.

Good Luck

Chuck U Farley · Post by **Chuck U Farley** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:30 am

Read between the lines. Flyer 146 has Parker Pen time and is now worried he will get caught and screw himself out of AC. Your past will always catch up to you at some time. If I am wrong I am sorry but I have never heard of anyone being nervous about bgetting thier log book signed. Good luck anyways.

flyer_146 · Post by **flyer_146** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:24 am

..... The only problem with your theory is that my logbook entries match the journey log entries. Maybe logbook entries should be matched not only against journey log entries but also FSS records? This is getting ridiculous. I just wanted to know how people in the past with unsigned hours handled it.

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:40 pm

flyer_146

I had to get a bunch of time certified by a Notary Public because it was impossible to have it done by my former employer. It is legal and not a problem. Just get what you can done by the original people and have the rest notarized. It's more than a little annoying paying good money for some schmuck who doesn't know you from Adam to certify your time, but it's legal.

complexintentions · Post by **complexintentions** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:15 pm

Slightly off topic...I have to say I'm pretty amazed AC is interviewing someone who "hasn't flown with another pilot for 5 years"...?!

Definitely not a slam on single-pilot ops, hell they're a way higher workload and harder than multi-crew but it's nothing that resembles airline operations! Both in crewing and equipment. Not a lot of single pilot transports out there!

Military maybe? But your talking about operators and salvage yards doesn't point to that.

I'm curious! I would never have left the single-pilot ho decades ago if I had thought that was enough to get me an AC interview!

flyer_146 · Post by **flyer_146** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:00 am

Yeah...I don't think too many F-18s are lying around salvage yards last time I checked...

... I went from 2 crew commuter ops back to the Ho mainly for the challenge, money and lifestyle (home almost every night). I think AC interviews from a wide, diverse range of backgrounds and not one type of experience is the answer. I know in the past they've even hired chopper pilots who only had a bare minimum of fixed wing time. I guess their thinking is that they want someone who will do things only the AC way and not any other way and its easier to work with a fresh recruit who has proven they are trainable.

Thanks for the notary public idea. I 'll follow that angle up....

flyer_146 · Post by **flyer_146** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:03 am

. double post