Aviation International (Canada) Inc.

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:46 am

Position:Survey Pilot
Company Name:Aviation International (Canada) Inc.
Aircraft Types:C337, PA31-310

Job Description:
Pilot required to fly calibration flights for LIDAR system
manufacturer. Flights are day and night VFR out of CYKZ. Please email or fax resume and cover letter indicating pay expectations.

hmm there's an interesting idea please tell me what you think your worth. These arn't the first guys who Ive seen do this...but I always wonder if they don't just hire whoever sends in the lowest pay expectation. I think every job posting should state experience requirments & expect'd pay...if that pay changes depending on experience & job placement, then give a range. That way everyone knows what they are getting into B4 they start the job.

...just my 2 cents

RVR6000 · Post by **RVR6000** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:25 pm

The post already has 476 views, the guys mailbox tomorrow will be filled with over 300 resumes all competing against each other.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:17 pm

" the guys mailbox tomorrow will be filled with over 300 resumes all competing against each other "

In a race to the bottom.

Soon we will see pilots competing to see who can pay the most to fly for these companies.

Actually when you look at it from a who has the best seat in the airplane there is an argument to be made that pilots should pay more than passengers in airplanes.

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:18 pm

Cat Driver wrote:
" the guys mailbox tomorrow will be filled with over 300 resumes all competing against each other "
In a race to the bottom.

Soon we will see pilots competing to see who can pay the most to fly for these companies.

Actually when you look at it from a who has the best seat in the airplane there is an argument to be made that pilots should pay more than passengers in airplanes.

Wasn't there already a race a couple years ago to see who could pay the most to fly a navajo in BC?

RVR6000 · Post by **RVR6000** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:27 pm

This is in the heart of Toronto, I wouldn't be surprise people wanting to work on a 'volunteering basis'.

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:58 pm

Few years ago instructors were up to 10 waiting in line to get this job, now it's up here. Funny how the industry goes.

What happened to the school?

Alex's a cool guy and the owner is a gagilionaire, so I would put what I thought was fair. They aren't hurting for money, that's for shizzle.

bluenote · Post by **bluenote** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:35 am

obviously they will pick the person that will offer the lowest pay, this is not good, especially when the owner is very rich.

Shame

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:03 am

bluenote wrote:obviously they will pick the person that will offer the lowest pay, this is not good, especially when the owner is very rich.

Shame

Very rich is an understatement. Bling Bling all the way.

bluenote · Post by **bluenote** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:43 am

But isn't that sad though.

Strega · Post by **Strega** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:59 am

well if they are going to pick the lowest bidder,, why doesnt everyone ask for lots of money! Duhhh!

bluenote · Post by **bluenote** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:02 pm

very good point stregga!!!

If they only knew who has the lowest bid, hey.

LostinRotation · Post by **LostinRotation** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:29 pm

Not everyone wants an employee thats going to work cheap and turn their back on you the second they get a better job offer. I heard that happened to a guy that was paying 12k/year to fly right seat in a Navajo, hired a guy, started his training and one week later he was gone. Flying LIDAR lines isn't rocket science, but it does require some skill and training. The contract doesn't always go to the lowest bidder. I'd put in for what I think I'm worth.

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Jim N · Post by **Jim N** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:18 pm

LostinRotation wrote:Not everyone wants an employee thats going to work cheap and turn their back on you the second they get a better job offer. I heard that happened to a guy that was paying 12k/year to fly right seat in a Navajo, hired a guy, started his training and one week later he was gone. Flying LIDAR lines isn't rocket science, but it does require some skill and training. The contract doesn't always go to the lowest bidder. I'd put in for what I think I'm worth.

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+1 to that!

If they are going to lowball, they will get what they pay for. Survey, being seasonal, also means whoever they hire will pretty much have to see that season through or it is a major hassle that can cost the operator big time. Not a chance they really need to take if they choose a well suited candidate from the median range of the wage expectations. Makes the most sense from my point of view.

Personally, I would send in whatever I needed to live decently. If you lose out to a lower bidder....Too bad, but the job would have made you miserably poor anyhow. Better to have to keep looking for another job you could survive with. There will always be someone who can undercut you so don't even start playing that game. Take it from someone who was willing to leave aviation if they couldn't survive without a side job. Besides the way the market is now, how long will it be before another job comes up? It may not be in survey but as long is the pay is good and the flying is good....

peeelot · Post by **peeelot** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:40 pm

Hi everyone. The person with the lowest bid won't get the job. It is the person most qualified that will get it. Alex was my CP. If anyone wants to work for a good person who takes care of the pilots apply.

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:33 pm

How much say does Alex have?

I know Alex pretty well, and am familiar with the operation there and how it's run. The owner has the say, and that's the bottom line.

Strega · Post by **Strega** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:46 am

I heard Alex really likes "nuts" and "sausages"