your 10th hour

[moetorious]

Im just wondering what kind of work you guys were doing at ur 10th hour?

-Moe

[shitdisturber]

Im just wondering what kind of work you guys were doing at ur 10th hour?

-Moe

Crash and dashes.

[Pilot_adam]

Pull back houses get small,push up houses get bigger....

On a serious note,it has been very long since my 10th hour but if you wanted to check your progress look at the exercises in the Flight training manual .. it appears to be Slow Flight or steep turns ...

And hey, If you are a little behind don't worry,some people take a bit longer to learn the basics, but those usually have a solid base later in training.


Cheers
Adam

[moetorious]

Pull back houses get small,push up houses get bigger....

On a serious note,it has been very long since my 10th hour but if you wanted to check your progress look at the exercises in the Flight training manual .. it appears to be Slow Flight or steep turns ...

And hey, If you are a little behind don't worry,some people take a bit longer to learn the basics, but those usually have a solid base later in training.


Cheers
Adam

I did my steep turns on my 6th hour, the reason im asking this question is because most ppl told me they did their solo around that hour.

-Moe

[shitdisturber]

By ten hours you should be well into the circuit; as I mentioned in a previous thread I've sent students solo in under that time. My rough rule of thumb is a student should be solo somewhere between ten and fifteen hours. Granted that's not always possible but it's a pretty good guideline IMHO.

[Lommer]

Don't worry if you haven't soloed by hour 10, that would probably be considered early these days. If you haven't soloed by hour 20 then there is some cause for concern, but I wouldn't use what hour you solo at as your primary benchmark of you instructor or your personal aptitude for flying, its a very cumbersome and inaccurate indicator.

[AUGER9]

Circuits, getting ready to go solo.

[TTJJ]

I agree with the other posters. At ten hours you would be in the circuit, IF you are a regular flyer.
In 1985, when I stopped instructing Ab Initio, a First Solo was normally done at between 10 and 15 hours.
In 1979 I soloed at 12 hours, so things haven't changed that much.
But don't sweat it if you aren't in the 10-15 hour bracket. You are going to do more dual circuits after you solo anyway, so you might just as well do them beforehand and get everything down pat.

[Adam44]

I did my steep turns on my 6th hour, the reason im asking this question is because most ppl told me they did their solo around that hour.

-Moe

I think whoever told you that is full of it.

For my 10th hour, I was doing my pre-solo supervision flight with a Class 2. I soloed 2 days later with 12.4 hours under my belt, ten days after my first training flight (I was flying every day.)

[Spokes]

First solo at 9.5, so I guess my 10th was also solo.

[fougapilot]

Soloed around 8hrs but then again that was in 1985...

Heck, I had my first pilot license (glider) with 3.5hrs total...

F

[Vancouver Pilot]

Hey,

I'm at like 14 hours now and should solo pretty soon. I've done the circuit for 4 lessons and am having issues with getting on a glidepath that is neither high nor low... and keeping the centre line while flaring...

It gets discouraging hearing about everyone who soloed at 10hrs, but it really isn't a race. So long as I'm ready when I solo.

Over.

[moetorious]

rite now i have 6.7 hours with 1.7 hours of it with a sim, and i still havnt got ot takeoffs yet, but hopefully will come soon.

[RVR6000]

rite now i have 6.7 hours with 1.7 hours of it with a sim,

What are you practicing in the sim?? What school is this?

[shitdisturber]

Hey,

I'm at like 14 hours now and should solo pretty soon. I've done the circuit for 4 lessons and am having issues with getting on a glidepath that is neither high nor low... and keeping the centre line while flaring...

It gets discouraging hearing about everyone who soloed at 10hrs, but it really isn't a race. So long as I'm ready when I solo.

Over.

Don't be discouraged at someone else's progress; those that solo early are frequently those who can afford the time to practically live at the airport and fly every day. Most of us can't afford that kind of time. The only one you're competing against is yourself; as long as you put in the effort and learn from your mistakes, that's all you or anyone else can ask of you.

[moetorious]

rite now i have 6.7 hours with 1.7 hours of it with a sim,

What are you practicing in the sim?? What school is this?

Toronto airways. CYKZ. they told me that the first excersise should be on the sim, and flight endurance should be on the sim as well and then practice in in the airplane.

[Vancouver Pilot]

as long as you put in the effort and learn from your mistakes, that's all you or anyone else can ask of you.

Thanks man. I'm just about ready, my lesson yesterday was pretty solid. I was letting the nose rise too much on the turn to final, and then letting it come up way too early. I guess it was instinct to pull up, but I've fixed that problem and am hitting the centre line way better. I'm happy with my progress.

Thanks.

[PTP]

Just a question, but was the weather the day you went in the sim to "practice" Range and Endurance a bad weather day? Did your instructor give you the option of this extra cost? (ok, I'm being a shit disturber)

Range and endurance do give you practice flying (reduced airspeed flying leads to better hands and feet). BUT it really is just there to let you see what you've read and give you more hands and feet time. Simulator wtf?

At 10 hours the circuit sounds like a great place to be. I wouldn't get too worried about your solo hour mark. A busy traffic day at the airport (like if you can only fly on weekends) will make your solo landmark higher than someone elses, so what. Don't worry about numbers and don't take things too seriously, non of us would be doing this if we didn't think it was fun, right? That said, it's your instructors responsibility to take care of you and give you a rough outline of what to expect in your training, this should include a sequence of lessons to expect.

ptp

[moetorious]

Just a question, but was the weather the day you went in the sim to "practice" Range and Endurance a bad weather day? Did your instructor give you the option of this extra cost? (ok, I'm being a shit disturber)

Range and endurance do give you practice flying (reduced airspeed flying leads to better hands and feet). BUT it really is just there to let you see what you've read and give you more hands and feet time. Simulator wtf?

At 10 hours the circuit sounds like a great place to be. I wouldn't get too worried about your solo hour mark. A busy traffic day at the airport (like if you can only fly on weekends) will make your solo landmark higher than someone elses, so what. Don't worry about numbers and don't take things too seriously, non of us would be doing this if we didn't think it was fun, right? That said, it's your instructors responsibility to take care of you and give you a rough outline of what to expect in your training, this should include a sequence of lessons to expect.

ptp

No the weather was great actually, I was booked in to fly then when we went to do our ground preperation my instructor looks at his outline and tells me that we have to use the sim before we actually practice it in the real airplane, so yeah I reallly had no choice.

Moe

[shitdisturber]

Just a question, but was the weather the day you went in the sim to "practice" Range and Endurance a bad weather day? Did your instructor give you the option of this extra cost? (ok, I'm being a shit disturber)

Range and endurance do give you practice flying (reduced airspeed flying leads to better hands and feet). BUT it really is just there to let you see what you've read and give you more hands and feet time. Simulator wtf?

At 10 hours the circuit sounds like a great place to be. I wouldn't get too worried about your solo hour mark. A busy traffic day at the airport (like if you can only fly on weekends) will make your solo landmark higher than someone elses, so what. Don't worry about numbers and don't take things too seriously, non of us would be doing this if we didn't think it was fun, right? That said, it's your instructors responsibility to take care of you and give you a rough outline of what to expect in your training, this should include a sequence of lessons to expect.

ptp

No the weather was great actually, I was booked in to fly then when we went to do our ground preperation my instructor looks at his outline and tells me that we have to use the sim before we actually practice it in the real airplane, so yeah I reallly had no choice.

Moe

Sounds like utter bullshit to me, I'd like to hear his side of the story because second hand is usually a bit innacurate.

[moetorious]

Just a question, but was the weather the day you went in the sim to "practice" Range and Endurance a bad weather day? Did your instructor give you the option of this extra cost? (ok, I'm being a shit disturber)

Range and endurance do give you practice flying (reduced airspeed flying leads to better hands and feet). BUT it really is just there to let you see what you've read and give you more hands and feet time. Simulator wtf?

At 10 hours the circuit sounds like a great place to be. I wouldn't get too worried about your solo hour mark. A busy traffic day at the airport (like if you can only fly on weekends) will make your solo landmark higher than someone elses, so what. Don't worry about numbers and don't take things too seriously, non of us would be doing this if we didn't think it was fun, right? That said, it's your instructors responsibility to take care of you and give you a rough outline of what to expect in your training, this should include a sequence of lessons to expect.

ptp

No the weather was great actually, I was booked in to fly then when we went to do our ground preperation my instructor looks at his outline and tells me that we have to use the sim before we actually practice it in the real airplane, so yeah I reallly had no choice.

Moe

Sounds like utter bullshit to me, I'd like to hear his side of the story because second hand is usually a bit innacurate.

Why would you think I should lie? there isnt much he can do becuase hes following the outline that was provided by the chief. so far the first lesson and the endurance has been practice on the sim first.

[Lommer]

It sounds like BS to me too. Not saying you're lying, just that most people I know didn't even sit in the sim during their private. Unusual attitudes isn't that complicated and with good pre- and post-flight briefings can easily be taught in 1 or 2 lessons in the plane.

I'm also surprised that the instructor didn't realize you were supposed to be in the sim until he looked at his lesson plan just 5 minutes before the flight. If I were you I'd take a look through the TC flight instructors guide to the PPL, then ask to see the school's curriculum and compare the two. I know when I did my PPL I didn't know a damn thing about aviation and I put up with a few things I shouldn't have (though I was lucky and in hindsight my school was overall very good).

[xsbank]

It sounds like you're all having fun and progressing swimmingly! This is a great time in your flying career and you should get as much as you can out of it. Don't sweat the hours - soon you will be counting them in thousands, not decimals.

Enjoy!

[shitdisturber]

No the weather was great actually, I was booked in to fly then when we went to do our ground preperation my instructor looks at his outline and tells me that we have to use the sim before we actually practice it in the real airplane, so yeah I reallly had no choice.

Moe

Sounds like utter bullshit to me, I'd like to hear his side of the story because second hand is usually a bit innacurate.

Why would you think I should lie? there isnt much he can do becuase hes following the outline that was provided by the chief. so far the first lesson and the endurance has been practice on the sim first.

I don't at all think you're lying; possibly you misheard or misinterpreted the explanation? I find it very odd that an outline would require practice of range and endurance in the sim before doing it in the aircraft. If what you've told us is what they actually told you, "there's something rotten in the state of Denmark." Range and endurance is worth maybe a half hour of airtime; in my view it's main purpose is to give the student a feel for the aircraft at lower speeds before you get into slow flight and the stall. If they're having you do it in the sim and in the air; then something very screwy is going on.

[Hedley]

One cannot help but wonder: which does the flight school make more profit on: the sim, or the aircraft?