WWFC....are they a mystery?

Awesome! · Post by **Awesome!** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:17 am

Hello, this is my second post, my first post was a Huge idiotic post.
Anyways, i browsed this amazing site and found that there is nothing much about Waterloo Wellington Flight Centre. Why is that no one tells anything about WWFC. Are they so bad or is it that no one trains there. I browsed their website for international students and found that this flight school seems to be the best for international students in terms of cost and fleet of aircraft.
http://www.canflight.com/costs.html
By the way i am an Indian with an engineering degree and hope to get a CPL and other Ratings in GTA area. I was seriously looking forward to WWFC.
Any comments please?
hope this time you guys help me out.
Thanks in Advance.

Pilot_adam · Post by **Pilot_adam** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:46 am

Here is a thread about them
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=11388

No they are not a mystery my friend ..

If I was an international student I would definitely go to WWFC instead of any other GTA schools for two main reasons:

1- Lower cost of training.
2-Lower cost of living in the Waterloo area.

If you are not limited to Ontario you should look up Harv's Air,they have a very solid program for International students..

Hope this help
Adam

Pilot_adam · Post by **Pilot_adam** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:34 am

Hey, I just went over the link u had provided ...

http://www.canflight.com/costs.html

Some of the numbers are not correct, for instance the number of dual hours in the commercial training is quoted as 23 hours dual while the Transport Canada number is 35 hours.

Awesome! · Post by **Awesome!** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:02 am

Hey Brother Adam...the link you have provided talks about the Integrated Commercial Pilot Program. As i have said, i am an engineer by education and don't require any diploma, that would also fall too heavy on my pocket. Also in that thread they are mostly talking about the OSAP of which i guess an international cannot think of.
Thanks for replying though...
....so do you suggest me to go to WWFC?.....
See the thing is, i cannot visit and decide so i'll have to make a decision here in india then get an acceptence letter from the flight school for the Visa processing, so i was looking for a school that shall not fall heavy on my Pocket.
Thanks Again brother.

duplicate2 · Post by **duplicate2** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:33 pm

Pilot_adam wrote:Hey, I just went over the link u had provided ...

http://www.canflight.com/costs.html

Some of the numbers are not correct, for instance the number of dual hours in the commercial training is quoted as 23 hours dual while the Transport Canada number is 35 hours.

It's been a while, but isn't 35 the total dual required for the CPL, including any time for night, IFR, multi etc?

Cleared Enroute · Post by **Cleared Enroute** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:01 am

Hey Awsome... I finished my training there last year and can tell you I have no regrets about it. WWFC is a good school with fairly good resources and pretty decent airplanes as far as flight schools go.

I was finished my training from Start to CPL, Multi, IFR in 18 months and that's with a couple months of bad weather and not a lot of flying in the summer due to my hectic work schedule. As for the school itself it has some very good older instructors (although some of which have left since last year) and a whole lot of very new instuctors which I think is pretty normal throughout the industry right now.

They have a big fleet with around 20 aircraft so for most of the year it is pretty easy to get an airplane. In the summer however, they do have an Air Cadets program which seems to monopolize the planes and the airport gets VERY busy.

The airport itself is great as you don't have to contend with big airline traffic but there is almost every kind of Instrument approach on the field so it's not like you have to travel to different airports just for a couple of approaches. Acctually there is often traffic that comes in from the toronto area to practice approaches because they can't be facilitated in toronto or the airport they train out of in Toronto doesn't have the insturment approaches required. Finally the training area is also nearby (5-10 mins) which is a lot better than anywhere you'd find in the GTA.

Good luck deciding if you want anymore info PM me.

Awesome! · Post by **Awesome!** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:06 am

Thanks Cleared Enroute for sharing your experience....Anyone else, Can you give me any advice, should i finalize it?

Thanks Again.

costermonger · Post by **costermonger** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:42 pm

Pilot_adam wrote:Some of the numbers are not correct, for instance the number of dual hours in the commercial training is quoted as 23 hours dual while the Transport Canada number is 35 hours.

duplicate2 is correct. The 20 hours in the twin and 10 hours of single engine instrument training in that syllabus brings the post-PPL dual hours up to 53.

Awesome! - the information on the Canflight website does have a couple mistakes, but the most pertinent one for someone in your situation would be that WWFC doesn't have a Piper Seneca (at least not yet). No idea what the plan is, but at some point they'll have to have access to a twin that's suitable for Indian students. I've never really heard a definitive explaination as to why a Seminole won't work for Indian students, but I know they aren't suitable. If I were you, I'd want an answer about this before I committed.

As others have said, with the exception of the six weeks in the summer when the Cadets are there, it's fairly rare that there isn't an aircraft available when you're training on a 152 or 172. Being relatively close to the practice area and the ability to complete the majority of your IFR training without spending time traveling to another airport are both advantages over a lot of the other schools in the area.

Awesome! · Post by **Awesome!** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:22 pm

Can anyone just advice me any other flight school please...Inexpensive please....How's Brantford Flight Centre?

SuperchargedRS · Post by **SuperchargedRS** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:21 pm

could it be due to genuine cowhide interior? lol

...sorry couldnt help it, BFC might work though; I know they cater to international students

Awesome! · Post by **Awesome!** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:07 am

Please ...anybody....about Brantford Flight Centre!!

Awesome! · Post by **Awesome!** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:04 am

Hello there, I pretty have much zeroed it on WWFC. I talked to the Admissions Director over there and he seems to be quite a helpful man. He said they have acquired a Piper Seneca just a few weeks ago and shall be training Multi-Engine on it. Would any one share their experience over there or would like to say something about it, Please. Anything that i should specifically ask the school. Any Comments Please!!

lexx · Post by **lexx** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:02 am

Awesome!

You may want to check out National Flyers Academy http://www.nationalflyers.on.ca/ They have plenty of information about courses for international students. They are also located at the Waterloo Regional Airport, and do have an affiliation with the WWFC that you seem to like.

Lexx
http://www.ykf.ca