I spoke to someone at TC today about the much anticipated changes to credited flight time towards the ATPL.
I asked them if and when they will be making changes to the current way we apply flight time to the ATPL. The changes in question would allow pilots to count 100% co-pilot flight time towards the ATPL, seeing as though those hours are in a TC certified 2-crew airplane, ie. Metro III, B1900, etc.
They advise me that there have been no talks of any changes to the current regs and there will most likely NOT be any changes to the current regulations set forth in the CARS.
Just thought I would pass this information along in case any anxious pilots out there are waiting to get their A's with the supposed changes.
If there is anyone on here from TC that can explain otherwise, please do so.
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Changes to ATPL...not likely
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I think there's been a great deal of confusion over this subject depending on who you're talking to. I have a good source in Transport that sent me an email a while ago regarding this so I figured I'd share the body of it.
"The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) has in fact amended the international standards for the crediting of co-pilot flight experience. These changes will be incorporated into the Canadian Aviation Regulations and will allow for crediting at 100% of co-pilot flight experience in aircraft that are equipped to be operated by a co-pilot in multi-crew operations, as specified in the aircraft type certificate or the Air Operator Certificate. In the interim, given that the regulatory changes take several years to complete, the Department is in the process of developing an exemption to the current Canadian standards. This exemption, which should be in place by July of this summer, will permit the crediting of co-pilot experience to be expanded to include the ICAO provisions."
I hope this clears up any questions...as for when exactly this exemption will be in place, who knows but I will post anything that I hear for the benefit of others.
Chin up
"The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) has in fact amended the international standards for the crediting of co-pilot flight experience. These changes will be incorporated into the Canadian Aviation Regulations and will allow for crediting at 100% of co-pilot flight experience in aircraft that are equipped to be operated by a co-pilot in multi-crew operations, as specified in the aircraft type certificate or the Air Operator Certificate. In the interim, given that the regulatory changes take several years to complete, the Department is in the process of developing an exemption to the current Canadian standards. This exemption, which should be in place by July of this summer, will permit the crediting of co-pilot experience to be expanded to include the ICAO provisions."
I hope this clears up any questions...as for when exactly this exemption will be in place, who knows but I will post anything that I hear for the benefit of others.
Chin up
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Over a decade ago I was nervously reading the musings of one TC inspector who said that Transport should change it's ATP licencing standards to include a flight test in an aircraft Type certificated for a minimum 2-crew. He went on to say that this is an ICAO requirement (true, it is in ICAO Annex 1) and how Canadian air carriers could concievably be banned from flying in foreign airspace because the Captain didn't get his ATP by doing a test in a 2-crew airplane.
All overrated, of course, and to date (well over 10 years later no changes). Might change, of course, and even if it does it does in the grand scheme of things it probably won't matter, since the ATP largely means that your can Captain an aircraft with a minimum of 2 crew members, and to be able to do so, you will need a flight test anyhow because it will be a Type Rating. In most countries, the airline employer bares the cost as part of the upgrade training, or in many cases even licences the First Officers as ATP's during recurrent simulator checks.
The greatest threat, as I see it, is rich-kid 1500 guys who are aching to have the ATP that they pay for the 737 Type Rating, creating a system that everybody now has to buy their Type Rating.
All overrated, of course, and to date (well over 10 years later no changes). Might change, of course, and even if it does it does in the grand scheme of things it probably won't matter, since the ATP largely means that your can Captain an aircraft with a minimum of 2 crew members, and to be able to do so, you will need a flight test anyhow because it will be a Type Rating. In most countries, the airline employer bares the cost as part of the upgrade training, or in many cases even licences the First Officers as ATP's during recurrent simulator checks.
The greatest threat, as I see it, is rich-kid 1500 guys who are aching to have the ATP that they pay for the 737 Type Rating, creating a system that everybody now has to buy their Type Rating.
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