Borek DC-3T accident in Antarctica

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Borek DC-3T accident in Antarctica

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CADORS Number: 2007C3509 Reporting Region: Prairie & Northern

Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Accident Occurrence Date: 2007/12/19
Occurrence Time: 0900 Z Day Or Night: night-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0

Canadian Aerodrome ID: Aerodrome Name:
Occurrence Location: Anartica South 78.184N 114.58W Province:
Country: CANADA World Area: North America

Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number:
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationCollision with terrain
Aircraft InformationFlight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: DOUGLAS Model: DC3CS1C3G
Year Built: 1942 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PT6A-67R
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Takeoff Damage: Substantial
Owner: KENN BOREK AIR LTD Operator: KENN BOREK AIR (2273)
Operator Type: Commercial

Detail InformationUser Name: Beauchamp, Carol
Date: 2007/12/19
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.: System Safety
Narrative: On take-off, aircraft collided with drifted snow and ice and sustained major damages. Four crew and six passengers were on-board. No injuries. Minister's Observer has been appointed. Further information to follow.

Please note that for the most part, CADORS reports contain preliminary, unconfirmed data which can be subject to change.



Sad to read this, I think the DC3 with turbines is a great aircraft.
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Coordinates? Anartica South 78.184N 114.58W? Just where did this take place?

78.184N -- -- North?
Or was it 78.184S
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Glad to see these CADORS are proof-read. Last I checked, Antarctica was in the southern hemisphere, nowhere near North America, and most certainly not in Canada. Oh well...hope she's up and running again soon. Beautiful machine.
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Check Pilot wrote:Coordinates? Anartica South 78.184N 114.58W? Just where did this take place?

78.184N -- -- North?
Or was it 78.184S
I Google Earthed both possibilities. The north location puts it in the extreme north-western Arctic Islands of Canada..off shore.
The south location puts it in Antarctica. I suspect the N in the co-ord's is an error.

This statement "Minister's Observer has been appointed. Further information to follow." makes me think that the accident investigation is being handled by another jurisdiction with a Canadian observer.

Maybe JC will speak up..I think he is marching with the penguins right now.
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Nobody got hurt, that's what counts. If the CADORs is any indication of what really happened, the worst that's going to come out of it is that the pilot didn't make himself aware of the "runway" (such as it is) condition before he departed.

Sucks to hear about a DC-3 getting banged up though, even if it is a turbine conversion.
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rum-. wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


CADORS Number: 2007C3509 Reporting Region: Prairie & Northern

Canadian Aerodrome ID: Aerodrome Name:
Occurrence Location: Anartica South 78.184N 114.58W Province:
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Anyone see any problems with the reporting area - the Latitude and then the title of this thread.
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SAR_YQQ wrote:
rum-. wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


CADORS Number: 2007C3509 Reporting Region: Prairie & Northern

Canadian Aerodrome ID: Aerodrome Name:
Occurrence Location: Anartica South 78.184N 114.58W Province:
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Anyone see any problems with the reporting area - the Latitude and then the title of this thread.
:? :? :rolleyes: If you look up 4 posts, I think you will get your answer.
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rum-. wrote:This statement "Minister's Observer has been appointed. Further information to follow." makes me think that the accident investigation is being handled by another jurisdiction with a Canadian observer.
A Minister's Observer is appointed by TCCA to be involved with TSB investigations.
The purpose of the Minister's Observer Program is to obtain timely information relevant to the Minister's responsibilities for safety and to contribute to the identification and evaluation of hazards revealed by investigations into aviation, rail, and marine occurrences.

The Minister's Observer will obtain factual information from an ongoing investigation, advise the Department of any significant regulatory factors, identify deficiencies that require immediate corrective actions and coordinate the required support to an occurrence investigation. The Minister's Observer will not participate in any regulatory investigation or enforcement action taken by the Department in relation to any occurrence to which the observer is assigned.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/tcss/TSB-SS/MinObs/menu.html#1
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Now this is interesting.

The CADORS report for this accident has been removed from the CADORS data base.
The report number 3508 and 3510 are both there, but, 3509 has been removed.

Whats up with that??
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It is missing ... strangely, so is the fatal out of Calgary Flying Club on the 15th, CADORs 2007C3473.
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Widow wrote:It is missing ... strangely, so is the fatal out of Calgary Flying Club on the 15th, CADORs 2007C3473.

The report is back, with corrected co-ord's.
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Pics of the aircraft/damage:
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Wow, I bet Penikitt really blew a gasket when he got that phone call. :smt014 No Christmas card for that crew this year. Glad to hear everyone was ok.
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it looks expensive...
can the DC be saved in such a remote par tof the globe ?
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Maybe Buffalo Joe could send his DC-4 recovery crew down.
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Enterprise had this happen to theirs in Antarctica from a wind storm and it was repaired. I'm sure the Borek BT-67 will be repaired too.

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Wierd... happened on take-off but looks like the props were feathered not fine?
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Thanks for posting the pictures "brownbear", I knew we were not entirely a "Police State", yet.
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I'm not sure what you meant about the police state......

But the pictures are not mine, they have been passing around in several emails.

I'm just glad no one was hurt. I feel sorry for the AME on that plane. It would be a tough job getting it safely out of there. Lots of pressure.

I was a Borekian for about 5 years..... The AME on that plane has his work cut out for him. Actually all the AME's in the area would there to help to.
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Most likely the reference relates to hydro's post above that used to contain a link to the website where those photos were originally posted by a passenger that was on board the aircraft. However, while the link is missing from his post, there is no indication that it has been edited so I don't imagine that any of the mods are responsible...
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CD wrote:Most likely the reference relates to hydro's post above that used to contain a link to the website where those photos were originally posted by a passenger that was on board the aircraft. However, while the link is missing from his post, there is no indication that it has been edited so I don't imagine that any of the mods are responsible...
Ah.... I had not seen that blog before. All the links I posted came in a very public email... sent in many directions.

Angle iron, herc straps and some new props and fly it out of there. The wings look good and most of the structural damage could be straightened out and stick some gear under there some how.

I bet it's cold and windy in that location.......
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Thanks CD, you explained it very well.
I am very interested in the future of the DC3T and was disappointed to see the link with the blog removed. Being an AME, this forum and others, keep us in the "Know" of the outside world.
I am not in favor of censorship and immediately had a suspicion someone, with editing rights, thought else wise. Thanks again "brownbear".
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Well, looks like there will be a few Borek DC-3T captains looking for work. I'm looking for some experienced DC-3T Captains. If any of you DC-3 guys need a job, look back a few weeks ago at the job postings for DC-3T Captains and send me resume's.
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For those interested , there is also a thread at PPrune about this incident:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=306907
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