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Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:23 pm
by Flyinghigh7
I am currently doing a "self-study" for my Commercial Written TC, but I haven't been given much guidance on what to study. So far people have just told me "same as PPL just more indepth". I know what topics to go over, but interms of what is most important and what to emphasis on, I have no idea. I'm getting really frustrated because of the amount of information and I just don't know where to start. :?

Any tips/suggestions?
Thanks

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:44 pm
by xsbank
Where are your instructors in this process? They should be providing guidance.

Also, TCs site has knowledge guides (use Google on their site).

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:15 pm
by wxnut
here you go buddy

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... 1/Menu.htm

that's your study and reference guide - im in ur shoes as well:)

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:12 pm
by canpilot
Ah yes, another Cpl topic.


If you want some good info, look at some of the posts i've made about this topic.. use the " search" function. I'm not going to re-write the canpilot/ skywolfe guide to the cpl..


Good luck!

Use the exam guide! use the study books " Sharper Edge" is the best ... book is o.k.


Merry Christmas..yet another year gone..unbelieveable!

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:33 pm
by 767
The navigation is different than PPL. The rest is pretty much similair, just a bit tricky when it comes to chosing the most correct answer. Its easy to pick the 2 incorrect options, but the other 2 are always hard to decide which one is correct.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:39 pm
by wxnut
in what way was the nav different?

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:50 am
by Night-Hawk
I wrote it in november and I thought it was a bit more difficult than PPL. I used the "Canadian Commercial Pilot Answer Guide, 5th Ed." Honestly, it's 25 bucks and it's all you need. Do all the questions, write a couple sample exams at your flight school and you're done.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:38 pm
by THEICEMAN
I used the 2001 edition of ....text & answer book. A couple of rules changes here & there....but worked all the same.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:24 pm
by DA42
Wrote the CPL exam about a month ago and all I did was self study. Didn't bother with the schools own ground school because all they did was show a bunch of power points.

Plus I needed to get it done quick so I used the 2007 and the Canadian Commercial Answer Guide. Both were more than enough.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:44 pm
by wxnut
whats the 2007?

Plus ... is FTGU really necessary to read for the CPL or is there anything more simplified for the CPL purpose.. Like I know ASA's ground school book always indicates which part of the text is for the CPL candidate... would love if it something made for the CPL would be out there.

I've heard about that book called Sharper Edge... is that what I am talking about or does that like FTGU focus on PPL material as well ?

Cheers

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:17 pm
by DA42
hey wxnut,

sorry "2007" was meant to be 2007 . it wouldn't let me post it with the "" spelling. FTGU is okay. i barely used it in my ppl and cpl. what i would do is study certain areas. as previously mentioned in the thread, click on the link from one of the above posts that'll lead you to TC's website. it's an outline of everything that they can technically ask you.

i don't believe reading all of FTGU is worth your time. you can definitely use it to reinforce something that you are unsure about. i've never read "Sharpers Edge" and the first time i heard about it was on this forum. but i guess it's worked for some so if your still stuck you can give that a try.

personally i read the . kinda a dry read but it's all you need to know. maybe even a bit extra. but it's definitely not a waste of time. buy of a copy of the canadian commercial answer guide. do ALL the questions. i also suggest getting an "Air Command Weather Manual." it's wx dumbed down and if i remember correctly it's even recommended on TC's study material for the CPL written.

good luck. study and you'll do fine.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:48 am
by canpilot
Only issue with the is some of the errors.

my gf and I went throught the FTGU, Cpl Answer Guide, TC AIM and yes....

If you are in the YVR area hit PRO-IFR and do the Cpl course. Also, many schools eg. Harv Air (excuse the spelling here) have online courses..Pro et. al. should give you a pretty good base of knowledge to ace the exam.

GOOD LUCK!

Hopefully you spent some time to find my posts on the Cpl. I took all the questions I got wrong * quite a bit in nav* as well as my gf's and other people's and posted em on here.

Oh don't write the exam when ur so sick you need a barf bag in the exam room.. Don't ask..Sky..you know what i'm talking about here..

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:51 am
by Highsea
Why is everyone still using the ? Use the Cpl Answer Guide and Sharper Edge Solutions Commercial Pilot Exam Preparation Guide. Sharper Edge book is great and I got it when I did my Proifr semmar.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:56 pm
by canpilot
I found the sharper only contained a little bit of pertainent nav/ regs etc stuff over and above the private. The Pro. IFR commerical/ ATP/ IATRA notes were the best..when used in conjunction with .

Also..keep in mind, I hit the FTGU hard because I hadn't looked at the material for the Private for a few years.

I think it kinda boils down to personal preference.. the aforementioned was mine..

Oh ya..the CAGEN section was a bitch.. make sure you know your theory ..WELL

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:57 pm
by RVR6000
Koolhane worked fine for me, for PPL CPL INRAT and AIRAF. Currently reading his ATPL book.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:28 pm
by Highsea
canpilot wrote:I found the sharper only contained a little bit of pertainent nav/ regs etc stuff over and above the private. The Pro. IFR commerical/ ATP/ IATRA notes were the best..when used in conjunction with .

Also..keep in mind, I hit the FTGU hard because I hadn't looked at the material for the Private for a few years.

I think it kinda boils down to personal preference.. the aforementioned was mine..

Oh ya..the CAGEN section was a bitch.. make sure you know your theory ..WELL
FTGU is always in my flightbag. I have used it in the bush a few times when I had some questions about something I have forget about. I was using the ground school book as my door stop on till I got a piston from a otter for that job which dose a better job. :lol: Like you said it's all preference. A other good book is CARS in plain English by Phil Croucher too.

As for the CAGEN part I was very lucky, I was working in a hanger and for a airline moving bags when I was doing my Commercial Exam. MET was the hardest part for me.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:37 pm
by Flyinghigh7
Thanks for all the info!

S.

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:11 pm
by Adanac
Don't forget the most important possible answers if you are not sure of the correct answer, (and this goes for most MOT exams!);

a. Answer C

b. Pick the longest answer.

c. The Minister says so..

d. The PIC

e. all of the above

If you get one of those in the choices.. odds are, that's the one you want. If they fall in combination then take that one. Eg: The PIC is answer C or the longest answer is answer C.

I also found it helpful to read the question backwards. An english teacher told me once, you mind will pick out the key words. That way when you finish reading it backwards, read it forwards again, the question will make more sence.

Good luck!

Cheers

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:21 pm
by Cat Driver
I also found it helpful to read the question backwards. An english teacher told me once, you mind will pick out the key words. That way when you finish reading it backwards, read it forwards again, the question will make more sence.
Is it not possible to have written tests where both the questions and the answers make sense?

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:53 am
by Adanac
Ha ha.. Ok Cat... Yes I have written tests where all of the questions did make sense. However, on those questions that normally seem to come close to the end of your exam and at the point when one's brain is feeling more like scrambled eggs than a fine tuned machine, the reading the question backwards theory helps. Well, at least it did for me.

Cheers.

Adanac

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:25 pm
by . ._
Get 80 percent on all of the questions in the Commercial Pilot Answer Guide, and you're good to go.

http://www.canada-shops.com/Magasin/vip ... 793.2.html

If ISTP can do it, ANYONE can!

Good luck!

-istp :wink:

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:57 pm
by niwre
Cat Driver wrote:
I also found it helpful to read the question backwards. An english teacher told me once, you mind will pick out the key words. That way when you finish reading it backwards, read it forwards again, the question will make more sence.
Is it not possible to have written tests where both the questions and the answers make sense?

amen!

It would be nice to see an exam written by aviators and not lawyers

Re: Commercial Transport Canada Written Exam Tips??!

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:22 pm
by Cat Driver
It would be nice to see an exam written by aviators and not lawyers
I don't think the exams are written by lawyers...lawyers need some brains to get to be lawyers.