A-320 scrapes wing on runway - video.

[boeingboy]

WOW!

They were lucky to get out of this with no major damage!

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... storm.html

[CD]

A photo of the ground contact:

Airliners.net

[SeptRepair]

Wow was that windy. Anyone know what kind of wind speeds that poor bugger was battling against?

[CD]

EDDH 011220Z 29028G48KT 9000 -SHRA FEW011 BKN014 07/05 Q0984 TEMPO 29035G55KT 4000 SHRA BKN008

[CF-UCK]

WHats the x-wind limit for the 320?

[Donald]

Looks like a left wingtip followed by a right pod/wingtip scrape. Either way, ouch!

[sky's the limit]

WHats the x-wind limit for the 320?

Less....????

Just throwing that out there....


stl

[costermonger]

Holy crap.

[Flying Nutcracker]

Good job saving it...

[Edi]

But what about the go-around decision after that wing strike? They were still on the runway with enough distance to stop. What if they had a structural damage or aileron malfunction? I know... it's easy to judge from the outside, but it's intresting to know others pilots opinion.

[RIMsky]

Oh my goodness!

[Four1oh]

A Boeing would have made it...

*runs away*

[twinpratts]

FCUK ME

[bmc]

http://www.hamburg-airport-friends-foru ... 07#pid2607

[Lommer]

But what about the go-around decision after that wing strike? They were still on the runway with enough distance to stop. What if they had a structural damage or aileron malfunction? I know... it's easy to judge from the outside, but it's intresting to know others pilots opinion.

Didn't look to me like they were firmly on the runway at that point - after the wingstrike they drifted even further off the edge of the runway. Keep in mind too that large engines take a couple seconds to spool up so the overshoot decision was likely made a few seconds before we see power carrying the aircraft again.

[stmymdy]

correct me if i'm wrong, but could them taking off again after that be considered "reckless endagerment" ???
i remember hearing a story of a 737-200 a long time ago mistaking the runway edge lights in YYC for centerline lighting and putting it down
it in the grass and then deciding to go around. apparently the pilots got crucified for it (reckless endagerment)
could've just been a story for story's sake, but anybody know about it?

[shitdisturber]

correct me if i'm wrong, but could them taking off again after that be considered "reckless endagerment" ???
i remember hearing a story of a 737-200 a long time ago mistaking the runway edge lights in YYC for centerline lighting and putting it down
it in the grass and then deciding to go around. apparently the pilots got crucified for it (reckless endagerment)
could've just been a story for story's sake, but anybody know about it?

It was two or three years ago. It took months for the YYC airport authority to replace the intersection sign they took out. I haven't flown out of YYC in a long time so I can only assume the skid marks in the grass have grown over by now.

[DHC3Rwannafly]

correct me if i'm wrong, but could them taking off again after that be considered "reckless endagerment" ???
i remember hearing a story of a 737-200 a long time ago mistaking the runway edge lights in YYC for centerline lighting and putting it down
it in the grass and then deciding to go around. apparently the pilots got crucified for it (reckless endagerment)
could've just been a story for story's sake, but anybody know about it?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was this not Jetsgo and an MD-83? That's the story I heard and then as they were in the go around they had to declare a fuel emergency? I heard this when working in YOW as a rampie for them....

[Obbie]

To anyone who believes that there was any moment in that sequence where a landing should have
continued...........please go watch it again.....and again......and again.

You are showing even worse judgement than that 320 crew did.

As the pilot shortage deepens in Europe, this kind of close call seems to be happening more often.

In a market where 2000 hour Airbus Captains, and 500 hour First Officiers are common,
it is only a matter of time. When faced with non-standard conditions, they don't have the experience
to make the right decision.

[rotateandfly]

Obbie wrote:

In a market where 2000 hour Airbus Captains, and 500 hour First Officiers are common,
it is only a matter of time. When faced with non-standard conditions, they don't have the experience
to make the right decision.

The A320 involved belongs to Lufthansa, they dont have any 2000 hour Airbus Captains. Last time I checked, no Direct entry captain positions, in order to go captain at LH one has to fly FO for at least 10-12 years on the 320 and the A330/340.

I think its hard to blame anyone at this point, especially when all the available information we have is a video made from a distance and from the rear. The German press seems to think the pilots were heroes for saving the airplane from complete disaster. I think it's better to wait and see what the incident investigation will say.

[artw]

http://cdn.liveleak.com/16/media16/2008 ... ansa2.jpeg

[flyinhigh]

I think its hard to blame anyone at this point, especially when all the available information we have is a video made from a distance and from the rear. The German press seems to think the pilots were heroes for saving the airplane from complete disaster. I think it's better to wait and see what the incident investigation will say.

I don't think its hard at all, you can clearly see that it was an unstable approach right from the beginning. The fact that the media thinks he is a hero is just another showing of how F#$KING dumb the media is.

They should in fact be asking why would you even attempt a landing in these conditions, they blatantly put the passengers in danger when they did this by flying the aircraft out of its designed parameters because they didn't want to do what so many pilots out there don't want to do, Say NO.

As for the comment about keeping it on the ground, mmmmm. K guys maybe take another look there was NO WAY that 320 would have stayed on the runway.

[sky's the limit]

I'm absolutely with flyinhigh on this one.

There's NO WAY that approach should have made it past the fence, I mean come on, there's 100+ people behind the pilots seat.....

I hope that guy gets some severe discipline. The Cathay guy got fired for a simple fly-by.....

That's about the worst display of PDM I've seen in a while, I'm pretty sure the METAR would have been a give away prior to decent, but even if he elected to give it a go, what part of looking out the SIDE window didn't set off alarm bells????? I used to drive my 1978 station wagon like that, but I was a kid....


stl

[Flying Low]

Not only was this a bad decision to continue the approach but, by the look of the pictures and video, the crosswind technique leaves a lot to be desired. In the pic posted from airliners there is little or no right wing down input thus the sudden roll as the airplane was kicked straight.

As for continuing the landing...only if you want to end up in the grass.

Bad decision to continue the landing through 50'...fantastic decision to get the hell outta there rather than force the issue once in the flare.

[Splatm]

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