stuck mic

[KAFUFO]

anyone know were I can find the link to ATC calling jazz a nasty name. I believe it was in TO

checked the old link on here and it no longer works

[grimey]

I'll get right on violating the Radiocommunications Act.

Prohibitions

9. (1) No person shall

(a) knowingly send, transmit or cause to be sent or transmitted any false or fraudulent distress signal, message, call or radiogram of any kind;

(b) without lawful excuse, interfere with or obstruct any radiocommunication;

(c) decode an encrypted subscription programming signal or encrypted network feed otherwise than under and in accordance with an authorization from the lawful distributor of the signal or feed;

(d) operate a radio apparatus so as to receive an encrypted subscription programming signal or encrypted network feed that has been decoded in contravention of paragraph (c); or

(e) retransmit to the public an encrypted subscription programming signal or encrypted network feed that has been decoded in contravention of paragraph (c).

Prohibition
(1.1) Except as prescribed, no person shall make use of or divulge a radio-based telephone communication

(a) if the originator of the communication or the person intended by the originator of the communication to receive it was in Canada when the communication was made; and

(b) unless the originator, or the person intended by the originator to receive the communication consents to the use or divulgence.

Idem
(2) Except as prescribed, no person shall intercept and make use of, or intercept and divulge, any radiocommunication, except as permitted by the originator of the communication or the person intended by the originator of the communication to receive it.

Exceptions
(3) Subsection (2) does not apply in respect of radiocommunication that consists of broadcasting, a subscription programming signal or a network feed.

1989, c. 17, s. 6; 1991, c. 11, s. 83; 1993, c. 40, s. 24.

Penalties

9.1 Every person who contravenes subsection 9(1.1) or (2) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable

(a) in the case of an individual, to a fine not exceeding twenty-five thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or to both; and

(b) in the case of a person other than an individual, to a fine not exceeding seventy-five thousand dollars.

1993, c. 40, s. 25.

[invertedattitude]

http://www.liveatc.net seems to get along fine? Not that it's legal perhaps...

[grimey]

It's based in the US, laws are different there. Anyway, it's rarely enforced up here, my point was that anyone wanting to pass it on might want to do it privately.

[Pygmie]

LiveATC.net still has a copy up: http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php ... 645.0.html

Note that you need to be logged in to listen to the files (account is free to set up).

[W0XOF]

Without having to log in. http://fly.blakecrosby.com/files/swearingonfreq.mp3

[KAFUFO]

Thanks, I heard he was fined for that comment. Was it ever figured out if it was a finger problem or and equipment issue. i.e. did anyone else have a stuck mic using the same radio with the same PTT.

[scrambled_legs]

Pygmie and W0XOF, why the hell would you feed the fire on this one. Would you want someone in the company passing around one of your @#$! ups to everyone on the internet???

Kafufo, seeing as you've established yourself as a controller hating Cessna pilot who loves to criticize our every move, I don't think you'll receive too many responses helping you out with your latest controller bashing venture. You should have asked the nice questions before making comments like...

just don't ask YWG for a visual you'll get to yxe before you'll get a helping hand

It should suprise me that you would spend the time downloading A/C to make your sim authentic. It doesn't

How can there be special proceadures when these guy's clearly just think this a game of moving the little dots all over the screen and who gives a f*ck what's going on

I've said it before. If you weren't there all aviation would just come to a grinding halt and we'd all just have to walk. Besides with out you I would have never got to see nearly as much of Minnisoda when comming to Winnipeg from the north

What was I thinking, your right.

Would you like an extra cushion for your chair.

So Kafufo, you obviously know the job better than we do and would be able to sit in a YWG terminal chair and show them how its done. Why the sudden interest in the Toronto incident??? Are you going to start a thread about how unprofessional that was and how you've never said anything bad off the air?

[W0XOF]

[quote="scrambled_legs"]Pygmie and W0XOF, why the hell would you feed the fire on this one. Would you want someone in the company passing around one of your @$#! ups to everyone on the internet???

My intentions where not to fuel any fires. I hope that isn't the case. If the audio wasn't on any websites I never what have provided a link. I apologize if that was my bad.

You are correct, I wouldn't want mine published neither. Although, earning my money on that side of the mic, having had stuck PTTs, I am certain he was not directing that comment personally at the pilot but at the situation.

I hope everyone realizes that locker room language happens in every cab, centre and flight deck etc, etc.. Stuck mics happen on both sides. Question I have is, how do this tapes get out???? These from the ATC Live sites???? Certainly wouldn't be released from in-house regardless if it was ATS or pilots talking like a sailor.

[invertedattitude]

Thanks, I heard he was fined for that comment. Was it ever figured out if it was a finger problem or and equipment issue. i.e. did anyone else have a stuck mic using the same radio with the same PTT.

You're kidding me right?

I guarantee every single controller on this board has had a stuck mic before.

I was told he was not fined, but given a slap on the wrist about it, as it should be.

[KAFUFO]

don't start this tit-for-tat crap. Because I'm bored and I'll play.

Wow, I love the turn out glad to see every time I make a post people are concerned about my alterier motives.

Of course I've had a stuck mic and no one who's used a radio for long hasen't.

As for the tit for tat crap. I'm bored and I'll play too but I really wasen't going anywhere with this I just wanted to hear the audio.

you've established yourself as a controller hating Cessna pilot

I hate when those controller hating Cessna pilot come up with about the only workable solution to the mid-air issues in the YIV/YST area. But don't worry about that it's not like I saw the idea put to use working as an expat in a busy non-radar enviroment. You keep telling me how inexperianced I am, and how well you keep those dots seperated on the screen.

Gotta love this board

[KAFUFO]

Go @$#! yourself.

care to demonstrait.

Don't like the restrictiveness of it? There's often the option of traveling uncontrolled airspace, at which point it becomes your call as to what is safe and reasonable.

read the forum on Island lake again as you might want to edit your post.

Been through the tour but thanks for the offer

[KAFUFO]

I bumped it for you

[invertedattitude]

I bumped it for you

I'm establishing a peitition at this point for you to change your name to "Maverick", because it seems you're about as in touch with reality as that movie was.

[KAFUFO]

I'm establishing a peitition at this point for you to change your name to "Maverick", because it seems you're about as in touch with reality as that movie was.

you think you gotta better idea, I'd love to here it

(undo edit) Don't like the restrictiveness of it? There's often the option of traveling uncontrolled airspace, at which point it becomes your call as to what is safe and reasonable.

you control alot of flights into and out of Island do you

[the_professor]

you control alot of flights into and out of Island do you

Seems to me that you'd be the first dipshit on here complaining about the 50min delays in and out of that region were it ever to become controlled to the ground without new radar in place.

Tune in the appropriate frequency, make accurate position reports, and keep your f*cking ears open. If you can't do that, don't fly in there.

[Married a Canadian]

Nice thread!!

In response to the original question. The controller was not fined. I was sitting next to him the night it happened.
He unplugged...listened to the tapes...got a chat with management...and then came back to have the p*** taken out of him by all his sympathetic terminal mates. I spent the rest of the night laughing.

Appropriate or not....it was a stuck mic...and I would be lying if I said there were times I have wondered what would happen if I were transmitting whilst in full rant mode.

Why the "worry" about digging this out again?? Live atc.net will always be there to document ones bloopers...and you tube has become a good site for it aswell. Even if the original poster did want to use it as an axe to grind (which I don't believe they did) why are we in the controller fraternity so up in arms about that anyway?? Some awfully touchy controllers out there!

[yrp]

Nice thread!!
In response to the original question. The controller was not fined. I was sitting next to him the night it happened.
He unplugged...listened to the tapes...got a chat with management...and then came back to have the p*** taken out of him by all his sympathetic terminal mates. I spent the rest of the night laughing.

Having heard some stories from YYZ centre, I think I'd rather pay a fine .

[...]

hi....it's me again....you're fav non confrontational 'piolett' burning holes in the sky and on the radio waves around the yyz area...

...you know...I'm not that smart in life (as many will attest to) and sometimes when a series of communiQues like the one I had yesterday with YYZ ground sound like this;

ATC -"you got plenty of room to go behind him should you choose to"
Me -"are both his engines started?"
ATC -"I assume so....he's taking taking off right after this"
Me-

Funny shyt....I wish I had 'joke' left for a reply but I was tired going on 18 hour-split duty day...I just hate running out of 'Joke' like that when it's tabled in front of me...in fact I just thought of a reply now...I'm saving it for the next time


Anywho...you can appreciate the fact that sometimes we ALL have said things on the radio that we wished we can take back.

The best thing about the unfortunate open keyed mic 'incident' is the class shown by the 'said' intended recipient at Aircanada/Jazz stating on the radio for ALL to hear that the controller was referring to;

"I believe he was referring to the fact he (ATC guy) was unable to reach anyone...and NOT one particular person"

I'm NOT a fan of anyone @ AC, mostly because I think most (not all) have the personality of a wet dish rag...however...I salut the professional pilot for attempting at 'saving the day' of a very embarrassing situation with grave consequences to follow.

If she is reading this...it's not often someone catches my attention...what you replied back showed more class than I have seen in a long time in the industry.

...but what the hell do I know about anything anyway!

[invertedattitude]

:
ATC -"you got plenty of room to go behind him should you choose to"
Me -"are both his engines started?"
ATC -"I assume so....he's taking taking off right after this"
Me-

You know he may have been cracking a joke at you in the first place for asking such a question. (I hope anyway)

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You know he may have been cracking a joke at you in the first place for asking such a question. (I hope anyway)

I painfully suspect so...it was a welcomed remark. Comedic timing is a rare thing.

[invertedattitude]

On the subject of comedic timing and stuck mics, there may or may not have been an incident recently regarding a controller singing a little bit of Tom Jones, to which after the realization of the stuck mic, a pilot on frequency promptly completed the verse.

Needless to say headset was replaced

[...]

I love Tom Jones. I grew up listening to him and I know every verse to every song...yup I sure do love Tommy Jeh