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Possible Survey Flying Job

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:55 pm
by muchacho
I have heard through the grape vine that SGL has been awarded a huge survey contract overseas .... I dont knwo if they are hiring but it might be a good idea to drop off a resume if you are interested in Survey work.

My 2 Cents

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:24 pm
by Murdoch86
what does SGL look for in their F/O's?

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SGL?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:20 pm
by Special K
Is this short form for Sanders Geophysics?

Thank you

K

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:36 pm
by PT6-114A
you are going to REALY want to sit in a Caravan for 8 hours sleepy

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:00 pm
by duplicate2
From the Sander website:
"Successful candidates will have a minimum of 2000 hours total time including 500 ME PIC on turbocharged piston twins, AND 500 PIC on turboprops; experience on Cessna Caravan is an asset."

I've heard they want 1500TT for F/Os, but that's unconfirmed.

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:31 am
by TG
PT6-114A wrote:you are going to REALY want to sit in a Caravan for 8 hours sleepy
That's funny.....And so true.

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:19 am
by Panama Jack
Isn't that why they operate the Caravan dual pilot? One snoozes while the other watches the autopilot? sleepy

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:42 am
by PT6-114A
sorry my friend I worked doing that work for a bit and it is all hands on flying bang head

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:56 pm
by wallypilot
Yes they do operate 2 crew. The reason they do this is mainly is because they abide by a set of regulations stipulated by an organisation called IAGSA. It's something like "the international Airborne Geophysics Association" and it stipulates that a pilot shall not fly more the 5 hours on survey line in a single flight. Usually large clients (like Exxon, BHP, etc) require that survey operators abide by this set of agreed upon limitations.
Plus, and probably more importantly, it's saves them buckets of money in ferry time to and from the survey area.

Since they use ferry tanks in their caravans they can do 8 + hours missions. And yes, it is all hands on flying, but man, could you imagine 8+ hours every day? I mean the odd long flight is not bad....but all the time? 6 days a week? Not for this guy. 8)

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:33 pm
by PT6-114A
hay dont you have a cushy job now of just sitting back and watching "auto" Fly :lol:

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:10 am
by Hoe Driver
Where does this Sanders operate???

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:59 am
by PT6-114A
they are all over but there main base is in CYOW

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:43 pm
by wallypilot
PT6....yeah, but only when we're temporarily blinding the animals with the LIDAR 8) ....going to go back to doing some mag flying on the next rotation, so that will be a nice change.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:05 pm
by PT6-114A
have fun in africa dont for get the little pills that keep us safe dont want to end up like a friend of ours

Sanders

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:29 am
by SplitS
Good company - my buddy's been there for years. Yup you do fly 6-8hrs and its all hands on. Low and slow. Good time building in spurts. Lots of EI time too when youre home on your *ss waiting for contracts.

FO requirements on the website are fiction - they hire who they like. Heard their getting lots of resumes these days...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:24 pm
by wallypilot
Caution to potential co-joes, though...make sure they give you decent training. I know someone who went there with 800 or so hour cp in a medium turboprop(flying low level survey), got laid off, went to SGL and quit after 4 months becuase they never did any training. Just wanted a body in the right seat. Subsequently went to NAC in YXL...now a co-joe on the pc12.

I think for those with a decent amount of PIC time, though, probably a great operation.

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:45 pm
by SplitS
Good safe company from what I hear.. How much can you train a right seater in a 208 anyways? :?:

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:32 pm
by wallypilot
well, at least give the pilot the official 3 hours company training, as well as a decent ground school. I am not saying this is a regular thing for them to skimp on training. From what I hear they normally very good. SOmetimes, in the survey industry especially, because there is so much VFR flying, comprehensive training can get pushed aside in order to get mobilised on a job to make the client happy. As a new trainee, just make sure you acquire the knowledge you need, even though you are only right seat in a caravan.

training

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:28 pm
by SplitS
From what I hear there are practically no copilots there anyways - one or two. Everyone and their brother is a 208 captain... thats gotta be fun.. :?

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:25 pm
by wallypilot
Yeah, I think you are right. Also, I think the whoever is in the right seat also plays the part of survey system operator. So you get to be apilot and geophysical technician! I guess you only fly 1/2 your time as PIC. :(

if you like travelling and experiencing the world SGL is 4U

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:27 pm
by greenguy
If not close your eyes and stay in Canada where you belong.

SGL is a great company. You get paid to travel the world and fly at the same time. Yes it is VFR for the most part but ferries across the Atlantic in a 208 will only ever look good anywhere you go. And yes PT6-114A you do fly 8 hrs but at 300agl over the Andes and desert I would like to see how long you can last. Experience Africa, Australia, South America, the Middle East!
I dont care how much you guys fly your C-172 Instructing in Canada at your local flying school and keep complaining about the aviation industry here in Canada because you cant get another job. See the world the way you do with SGL is the way to do it. 3 month stints and you live in the small towns with the local people. Then take some time off and travel around in Africa. Come back and your flying again.


You guys are nothing but complainers.

Fine with me. All the more jobs for those who want them--PT6-114A (keep instructing)!

RIP ---
muchacho

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:10 am
by Typhoon pilot
Hey Greenie

Before you jump to conclusions make sure you have all the facts. PT6-114 A flew for SGL on the Van. Perhaps he was making a little poke at survey flying which he is more than qualified to do! Now he's flying in the arctic and doing pretty good last time I saw him. So hop back in your little airplane and look for oil! And yeah I flew survey 9 years ago and no I don't instruct.

Cheers

so what makes him so special?He makes fun.I make fun. Relax

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:45 am
by greenguy
How the %^$& am I supposed to know what Pt6 is doing?

And who are you to talk? dont answer. I dont care.

Just like I said. Stay in Canada!

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:54 am
by PT6-114A
thanks Typhoon pilot

Hay Greenguy if you take your head out of your ass for a min I would like to tell you that I did 2 years of low level mag work on the caravan ALL hand flying. did the trip accross the atlantic in the caravan and did work in the small towns I have never done an hour of instruting other than to teach people to fly the caravan we did not do the 8 hour flights that SGL does but it was normal for us to do a 5.8 trip and Fugro was a way better place to work for more money and time off.

Wallypilot and I used to fly together there if I want to poke a little fun at him I think that is well with in my right

so what do you think about that now after opening your big ass mouth.

so we are all supposed to be mind readers are we

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:53 pm
by greenguy
Thanks for clarifying everything. I feel so bad with what I have said. Ya thats it.
Fugro, SGL, --Six of one, half a dozen of the other. They are both survey companies and do similar work in similar locations with similar aircraft.