anybody been called yet?

[goaroundthrust]

Has anybody been called for an interview yet? If yes, what were your hours etc ? thanks...

[Jercules]

Not even a second view of my resume if it makes you feel any better.
Only have 3000TT/1000MPIC, no internal reference, but do have degree/military/bilingual.

Good luck to all.

[twinpratts]

Heard interviews should be ramping up soon for 2009.

[pitot-tube]

I have over 4000TT, and a couple of internals, still hoping on a call soon. Maybe Dave can let us in on if they have started the calls yet! Good luck everyone.

[Ryan Coke2]

FYI, from what I understand class average times are still around 4500-5000.

Good luck to all.

[DaveP]

Calls started in August and will continue through the fall and on through the winter. Roughly 8 to 16 candidates will be chosen per month.

Classes have now been filled for 2008 therefore all interviewing for October and November will be for courses beginning in the new year.

Please keep an up to date resume on file with workopolis with clear updated contact information as well as clear flght times and work history. This may sound silly, however many resumes/candidates are skipped due to a lack of the above mentioned.

If you are having troubles updating your resume please simply contact workopolis and they will help you out. Otherwise you can simply submit a whole new application. Do this in particular if any number of the prescreen questions have changed (numbers 13 and onward being the more important ones).

Thanks,

Dave.

[Franky Jr]

What is the lowest time guy someone has seen hired recently?
Also any chance of getting in with a lot of king air PIC ( nothing larger ever flown )??

Thanks.

[wrc]

What is the lowest time guy someone has seen hired recently?
Also any chance of getting in with a lot of king air PIC ( nothing larger ever flown )??

not much. Also, getting hired on with low time and experience works against the pilot and the company. Training and recurrents become a demoralizing and expensive battle.

[CanExpat]

PRE-SCREEN QUESTIONS???

I have filled out the workopolis info, but never saw anything with regards to pre-screen questions??? Can anyone help?

[Bluetooth]

Each time you create a new account (username and password) on Workopolis and then apply to WestJet, you should somewhere near the end of the process of posting your resume and cover letter have a 20 question matrix pop up that must be completed to finish the application process.. Your score on this matrix is used I think for initial screening.

[hoghead]

Take note Franky Jr,

Do you really want to work somewhere that considers training "a demoralizing and expensive battle". I hope this guy is not instructing or checking. King Air PIC should be more than enough for a Boeing, if the training is of any standard.

[Four1oh]

Take note Franky Jr,

Do you really want to work somewhere that considers training "a demoralizing and expensive battle". I hope this guy is not instructing or checking. King Air PIC should be more than enough for a Boeing, if the training is of any standard.

ok, if you took a 200 hour wonder off the street and put him through the training schedule WJ does, he wouldn't stand a chance. WJ is training people who are already experienced professionals. They train the new type, and the new SOP's. You are expected to know the rest. Hence, if the trainee isn't up to speed, it will be a demoralizing experience for the candidate as well as an expensive waste of time for the company.

[AuxBatOn]

I'm pretty sure a King Air Capt with 2000 hrs knows "the rest"... Heck, you're the FO in a 2 crew environment. Can't be that hard.

[Four1oh]

I'm pretty sure a King Air Capt with 2000 hrs knows "the rest"... Heck, you're the FO in a 2 crew environment. Can't be that hard.

Oh, you must be the new FA who told me that she heard that FO's are like the Captain's wife. They do paperwork, talk on the radio, and just do whatever the Captain tells him to do. That pretty much sums it up, all right...

[AuxBatOn]

What I mean is if in 2000 hours and experience on a multi-turbine you haven't been able to figure how to fly an airplane yet, should you really be in command of a passenger airplane already? Flying an aircraft isn't magic. Because you fly the might 737 doesn't make you "the shit". It's an airplane and anyone can learn it.

[squawk 7600]

I'm pretty sure a 200 hr wonder could handle the training regiment at WestJet just fine. I don't think Jazz had any problems with them on the CRJ, and I would bet the 737 is an even easier process (a more advanced airplane).

It is just an airplane, it's not rocket science. Some of you seem to forget this. And some of you WestJet pilots seem to have an even bigger god complex.

Get over yourselves...we are just pilots.

[GARRETT]

I applied in May and still have only 1 view. I have 8000 hrs, 705 PIC. My buddy got on 6 months ago with just 1 view for what it's worth. Fingers crossed for a call soon...

[J Roc]

http://www.workopolis.com/EN/job/9558551

The minimum qualifications are 2500TT and 1000PIC etc....but it's not a matter of Westjet not being able to train a 2500 hour pilot, it's a matter of westjet not having to train a 2500 hour pilot, not yet at least. Fortunately for Westjet we have a surplus of pilots that far exceed the posted requirements and it's only common sense that the hiring department will pick from the top first. This IS NOT an aviation thing, this is a life thing. Every industry in the world will choose the highest qualified applicants first.

And of course a 2500 hour pilot can be trained on the 737, it's happened LOTS in the past...that's not the point. But unfortunately westjet had noticed a trend of additional training being required, especially for the pilots with little or no experience with efis/sims etc...a trend that cost westjet quite a bit of money (i heard 750g's but that sounds WAY too high).

[Four1oh]

In the TIME FRAME WJ trains the new hires in, you have to be sharp and on the ball. With enough training, yes, a 200 hour wonder would be able to do it. MY POINT was the TIME FRAME involved. Hopefully that was clear enough. The guys who have the most problems is the guys who don't respect SOP's or have very little experience for SOP's in their previous jobs.

[AuxBatOn]

In the TIME FRAME WJ trains the new hires in, you have to be sharp and on the ball. With enough training, yes, a 200 hour wonder would be able to do it. MY POINT was the TIME FRAME involved. Hopefully that was clear enough. The guys who have the most problems is the guys who don't respect SOP's or have very little experience for SOP's in their previous jobs.

You know, if the military can train a 300 hours guy to fly an F-18 by himself in a short timeframe, I think Westjet can train a low timer in the time you would train a more experienced guy. What's so hard about learning the mighty 737? The FMS? God, a 15 year old kid keen with computers could probably learn it in 2 days... Flying is a great job. But anyone keen enough could do it. You are not irreplacable and you are not holier than God because you fly.

[Ryan Coke2]

[quote="AuxBatOn"][quote="Four1oh"]In the TIME FRAME WJ trains the new hires in, you have to be sharp and on the ball. With enough training, yes, a 200 hour wonder would be able to do it. MY POINT was the TIME FRAME involved. Hopefully that was clear enough. The guys who have the most problems is the guys who don't respect SOP's or have very little experience for SOP's in their previous jobs.[/quote]

You know, if the military can train a 300 hours guy to fly an F-18 by himself in a short timeframe, I think Westjet can train a low timer in the time you would train a more experienced guy. What's so hard about learning the mighty 737? The FMS? God, a 15 year old kid keen with computers could probably learn it in 2 days... Flying is a great job. But anyone keen enough could do it. You are not irreplacable and you are not holier than God because you fly.[/quote]

You must be the guy that was telling me that 'you pilots don't have to actually do anything, it's all run by computers anyway'. Yeah, that's right.

I have learned a lot of things about flying, but if only I had learned how 'simple' it is things would've been so much easier.

[Four1oh]

In the TIME FRAME WJ trains the new hires in, you have to be sharp and on the ball. With enough training, yes, a 200 hour wonder would be able to do it. MY POINT was the TIME FRAME involved. Hopefully that was clear enough. The guys who have the most problems is the guys who don't respect SOP's or have very little experience for SOP's in their previous jobs.

You know, if the military can train a 300 hours guy to fly an F-18 by himself in a short timeframe, I think Westjet can train a low timer in the time you would train a more experienced guy. What's so hard about learning the mighty 737? The FMS? God, a 15 year old kid keen with computers could probably learn it in 2 days... Flying is a great job. But anyone keen enough could do it. You are not irreplacable and you are not holier than God because you fly.

From the sounds of it, you're the one who thinks he's an aviation god. Get real buddy. See, I base my opinion on my own experiences, and I couldn't imagine getting through the WJ course off the Cheyenne I flew medevacs in. Not a goddamn chance. Some aviation god, eh?

[AuxBatOn]

You know, 410, I'm not the one saying it's so hard to train on a jet. Au contraire, I believe that anyone could do it, as long as he/she has a good knowledge base (that I hope in 1500-2000 hours, you developped) and is willing to put the effort in.

You still haven't answered my question: What is so hard about learning to "fly" the 737?

[Intentional Left Bank]

know, 410, I'm not the one saying it's so hard to train on a jet. Au contraire, I believe that anyone could do it, as long as he/she has a good knowledge base (that I hope in 1500-2000 hours, you developped) and is willing to put the effort in.

You still haven't answered my question: What is so hard about learning to "fly" the 737?

To make it through training is one thing. Let's say the concession is made that "anyone could do it" given unlimited or certainly extended time. Will a 2000hr pilot be a greater asset on the flight deck than someone with more experience? Can extended training effectively replace the need for experience? When the chips are down and it's not a scripted training scenario and decisions have to be made, and decisions sometimes have to be questioned?

I know with whom I'd rather entrust my loved ones' lives. You?

[Four1oh]

You know, 410, I'm not the one saying it's so hard to train on a jet. Au contraire, I believe that anyone could do it, as long as he/she has a good knowledge base (that I hope in 1500-2000 hours, you developped) and is willing to put the effort in.

You still haven't answered my question: What is so hard about learning to "fly" the 737?

Even a monkey can be trained to fly a plane. How much time and money are you willing to put into that monkey to push the right button at the right time? ILB said it; we hire 'experienced' pilots. Pilots who will be ready to be captains in ___ amount of time. In the early days of Westjet, that ____ amount of time was under 6 months. At the time I was hired it was 2 years, and currently it's about 4-6. Westjet can't upgrade someone under 5000 hours, I believe it's an insurance restriction, so when a FO's number comes up for the upgrade and they don't have the required hours, they'll get passed over. I wonder if the King Air guy in your example had an ATPL. I'm sure he did, after all he's a keen guy, this king air guy.