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Developed in response to the changing Canadian aviation industry, this unique program offered by Western's Management and Organizational Studies Program is the only one of its kind operated from a major Canadian university.

By studying Commercial Aviation Management at Western you have the option of combining the four-year Management and Organizational Studies degree with formal flight training.

Why Commercial Aviation Management?
* This unique program will enable you to translate your hobby into a future career.
* Gain recognition and credibility within the industry and show you are a professional committed to the safety, management, security, efficiency and acceptance of business aviation.
* You will graduate with a university degree in management and licensed to fly commercial aircraft.
* An ideal preparation for employment in both private and public sectors of the aviation industry.
* The BMOS Degree is a stepping stone to MBA programs, law or other professional schools.

As always if you have any question about the program, feel free to ask me directly any time. I'll be more than happy to share my experience with you.

Remember ROTP, OSAP, Grants and Bursaries from the university and the government are always there to help...

Feel free to comment on this program, its always welcoming to see different perspectives of the program and always rewarding to hear from graduates of this program....

I hope they are paying you to advertise like this for them. If not, then you just have way too much time on your hands.

Or go to college and do it for 1/8 the cost

I wish I was getting paid, and plus, its not advertising...but rather ...my goal is to increase program awareness, bring more people to western...

Stevo226 wrote:Or go to college and do it for 1/8 the cost

Are you comparing a college diploma with a university degree?
You just can't....at western, we have one of the best faculty staff in Canada they have the most in depth knowledge of the industry....all come from very rich backgrounds....

Did you go to a college? or a university?

Stevo226 wrote:Or go to college and do it for 1/8 the cost

I agree. I don't see much point in doing a 4 year management degree if you want to be a pilot.

Confed or Sault seems to be the obvious better choice.

deflux wrote:

Stevo226 wrote:Or go to college and do it for 1/8 the cost

I agree. I don't see much point in doing a 4 year management degree if you want to be a pilot.

Confed or Sault seems to be the obvious better choice.

A back-up plan?

a degree in aviation management is not a backup plan. Very few degrees are true backup plans. by the time you need that back up plan if god forbid you ever do, you will have probably forgotten most of it or the industry will have changed and your knowledge is outdated. I have a backup plan it however has nothing to do with a degree

A back up plan is very important, since you love to fly, why not study something that's related to aviation.
Who knows, something may get in the way of you becoming a pilot, but since you have a degree in Management, you can always go back to doing something you love.

People work in all respects of the industry, I have friends that graduate to go on to Transport Canada, some to Nav Canada and some to Air Canada as managers, it doesn't mean they don't want to be a pilot, it just simply means that they have chosen to take an alternate career path.

C-GGGQ wrote:by the time you need that back up plan if god forbid you ever do, you will have probably forgotten most of it or the industry will have changed and your knowledge is outdated.

If you have studied Aviation Management, you would know that there are fundamentals in the Aviation industry that will never change and the knowledge you hold will never be outdated.

Maybe so but I don't really consider anything aviation related to be a backup plan. If the industry is so bad that you can no longer find work as a pilot, is there going to be a realistic chance that you could find a job in some other aviation related field?

I am a licensed electrician, thats my backup plan. I know that if I ever lose my medical or the industry goes for a crap i'll be ok.

Bingo, Welder in my case

Well, if someone wants a degree, and a career in aviation I'd suggest doing a degree in science or engineering and then going to a flight school for the flight training. The cost is similar to most university programs, a degree in science or engineering is going to put you ahead of the curve when it comes to understanding a/c systems, and you have a bit more ability to choose a good flight instructor.

You may be right, in some respects, but our industry is comprised with SOOOOO many different fields, an aviation management degree is very useful. To put into perspective, you can always go the logistic route with freight forwarding, you can then also go on to other projects that are non aviation related.

One of my professors at the university is a specialist in Human Factors in aviation....but that doesn't stop her from helping the O.P.P. devise a course to reduce Human Factor Errors within the O.P.P.

What I'm trying to draw upon here is, this aviation management degree, is not JUST aviation related...rather...it has a business management degree built into it as well....so what does that mean? You can easily be hired by P&G, IBM, CARA, Telus, Bell, Rogers, HBC, Canadian Government, and much much more.

keep er' soft bud.

ToFlyIsDivine wrote:I wish I was getting paid, and plus, its not advertising...but rather ...my goal is to increase program awareness, bring more people to western...

Stevo226 wrote:Or go to college and do it for 1/8 the cost

Are you comparing a college diploma with a university degree?
You just can't....at western, we have one of the best faculty staff in Canada they have the most in depth knowledge of the industry....all come from very rich backgrounds....

Did you go to a college? or a university?

What does it matter where i went? post secondary education is just that, there's no differing between a diploma or degree when it comes to getting a job in this industry. Besides, college or university the only thing way they can better prepare you is to give you way more groundschool, the other classes are just fillers. Coming out of an aviation school will definetly better prepare you for an instructing role, but not much else.

And yes I did go to Confed

i think an aviation degree or diploma isn't necessary in canada

save your money and find a good flying club with good instructors

the degree or college programs that aren't subsidized like sault, seneca and confed in ontario are a waste of money in my opinion

an aviation degree is a pretty poor backup plan

you would be better off getting a trade and doing your licenses on the side

mattedfred wrote:i think an aviation degree or diploma isn't necessary in canada

save your money and find a good flying club with good instructors

the degree or college programs that aren't subsidized like sault, seneca and confed in ontario are a waste of money in my opinion

an aviation degree is a pretty poor backup plan

you would be better off getting a trade and doing your licenses on the side

i agree however Sault and Confed are both subsidized. in fact the only two (i think)

If you you really want to spend such needless amounts of money, why not go to the Uni of your choice, taking the program of your choice, going to the flight school of your choice, flying on your own schedule??

And when it comes to getting a flying job, Sault and Confed have the reputations you want.

Stevo226 wrote:

mattedfred wrote:i think an aviation degree or diploma isn't necessary in canada

save your money and find a good flying club with good instructors

the degree or college programs that aren't subsidized like sault, seneca and confed in ontario are a waste of money in my opinion

an aviation degree is a pretty poor backup plan

you would be better off getting a trade and doing your licenses on the side

i agree however Sault and Confed are both subsidized. in fact the only two (i think)

my grammer is really bad

i meant to say: while sault, seneca and confed are subsidized for ontario residents, other colleges and universities are not

Seneca is subsidised too? why did i think it wasn't?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but is it a 4 year program now? including MIFR?

i could be wrong but it was back in the 90s

Stevo226 wrote:Seneca is subsidised too? why did i think it wasn't?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but is it a 4 year program now? including MIFR?

Yes it's a 4 year program including MIFR. At the end of 4 years you get what's called a Bachelor of Applied Technology degree from Seneca. An Ontario college degree like this is meant to combine the theories you would get from a university education with the practical "hands-on" experience you would get from a college program At least that's what they say to promote these applied degree programs.


Anyways, if you guys don't like the Aviation Management degree at UWO, then maybe the program at the University of Waterloo might be for you! I'm in the first year of the Science and Aviation program specializing in Physics. You could choose to to specialize in Physics, Earth Sciences or remain unspecialized. There's also Geography and Aviation, where you'll graduate with an Option in Geomatics (stuff like GPS, GIS, etc). At the end, you get a Bachelor of Science or a Bachelor of Environmental Studies degree. Other than the ground school and flight labs, the courses at Waterloo are not really aviation related (for me, it would be Physics courses, math courses, some geomatics courses). So really, it's just a Science/Env Studies degree, and you get the opportunity to complete flight training at the same time.

Another glossy program aimed at attracting prospective pilots to spend huge cash and then realize
that they could have done without it and done it themselves at the local flight school.
Perspective employers are gonna look and see, does this person have all their ratings,
ok now what experience do they have period.
Do they care what commercial aviation management program you have, the answer is no.
Back up plan sure something outside of aviation is good, a trade is huge or if you really want
to be ahead of the game an apprenticeship or an AME ticket would be great.

It’s alright if you can't afford quality education, I don't blame you.
Don't put down other people who can and want to.

No one is forcing anyone to join anything.

If you want to join your local flight school, by all means, enjoy yourselves.

If you want to study something you don't love, knock yourselves out.

This program is simply for those who want to learn more about the industry, learn more about the industry’s opportunity and pursue their dream as a pilot at the same time.

Don't put down these people because they could potentially be your boss and the policy makers.

The students here are very academically geared towards excellence and are getting their ratings, relevant industry experience and a quality education at the same time. They work hard to achieve their ratings and their degree at the same time. That is commendable and it’s not something everyone can handle.

ToFlyIsDivine wrote: Don't put down these people because they could potentially be your boss and the policy makers.

The students here are very academically geared towards excellence and are getting their ratings, relevant industry experience and a quality education at the same time. They work hard to achieve their ratings and their degree at the same time. That is commendable and it’s not something everyone can handle.

please stop posting as you're probably doing more harm than good

you see the thing in that most of the bosses that most of us had when we were just starting out didn't go to college or university and some of them didn't graduate highschool

i was interviewed by one boss that couldn't calculate the area of a room and asked me for help ordering a new rug

do you really want to send the graduates of your program out into the aviation industry with the attitude that you have?