Police cars at Fast Air
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Police cars at Fast Air
What's with the police cars and TC inspectors at Fast Air this AM???
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This may be good news for the Leafs.
They are next expected to win the Cup when pigs fly.
They are next expected to win the Cup when pigs fly.
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TC showed up with warrants and police escort to back it up. They are going through all of Fast Air's documents. Looks like the end for them.
Without maintenance, pilots are just pedestrians with cool sunglasses and jackets.
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MrWings wrote:This may be good news for the Leafs.
They are next expected to win the Cup when pigs fly.
...you owe me 10$ for dry cleaning cranberry & vodka out of my pants when I spit it out after reading your post...
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Ah, Straight from the Arctic Wings Transport Canada playbook.midnight elf wrote:TC showed up with warrants and police escort to back it up. They are going through all of Fast Air's documents. Looks like the end for them.
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Transport Canada Investigates Fast Air
Written by Aviation.ca
Thursday, 13 November 2008
Wednesday afternoon investigators from Transport Canada moved into Fast Air Executive Aviation Services in Winnipeg and seized computers and boxes of maintenance records after obtaining a search warrant. The event they are investigating follows an incident with a medevac flight which caused considerable damage to an aircraft last month. No injuries were reported on the flight. Fast Air MedEvac is a provider of air ambulance service 24 hour a day from Thompson, Winnipeg and Norway House in Manitoba.
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I heard they had a bad audit, went through too many DOM's and tried to cover up the King Air incident.
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I heard that they had a King Air attempt a landing at some reserve north of Thompson in bad weather, that didn't go so well, and the plane is in rough shape. I also heard no injuries though...
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Well I can say from personal experience that the YWG TC office was the most viscious of the offices I dealt with. Don't cross YWG! They will do what they can to bury you.
DISCLAIMER:
This is only my opinion expressed by me based on my personal experiences with the forementioned Transport Canada office.
Cheers,
ETTW
DISCLAIMER:
This is only my opinion expressed by me based on my personal experiences with the forementioned Transport Canada office.
Cheers,
ETTW
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2. If the company doesn't make money neither do I
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well then things must have changed since i was in YWG back in the mid 90s cause the outfit i flew for had 6 accidents in 1 year and kept their OC the whole time. i think it depends on who you are just like the rest of the world. perhaps fastair doesn't know the right people.ettw wrote:Well I can say from personal experience that the YWG TC office was the most viscious of the offices I dealt with. Don't cross YWG! They will do what they can to bury you.
DISCLAIMER:
This is only my opinion expressed by me based on my personal experiences with the forementioned Transport Canada office.
Cheers,
ETTW
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Well I know that the operation I was working with at the time was far from perfect and YWG had it out for us. We actually ended up in Art LaFlammes office begging him to move us to any other region and we would prove within 1 year that we werent as bad as YWG was making us out to be.
Sure enough, we ended up with YEG and then YYC and as far as I know, they havent had any problems from TC since. This is partly due to the fact that operational management at the company became more stable to be sure but I think we still would have been sunk if we had stayed with YWG. Viscious is the best word I can come up with to describe them when I was dealing with them.
Cheers,
ETTW
Sure enough, we ended up with YEG and then YYC and as far as I know, they havent had any problems from TC since. This is partly due to the fact that operational management at the company became more stable to be sure but I think we still would have been sunk if we had stayed with YWG. Viscious is the best word I can come up with to describe them when I was dealing with them.
Cheers,
ETTW
1. The company pays me to make money for it.
2. If the company doesn't make money neither do I
3. I still hate simulators
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Was Fast Air worse than Keystone?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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It was a 200 and there is a post in the General Forums with the Cadors posted in it.
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They have also been having issues in maintenance. They tend to fire engineers and DOM's that refuse to sign out unsafe aircraft. There are going to be three stories here, Transports version, Fast Air's and the truth.
Without maintenance, pilots are just pedestrians with cool sunglasses and jackets.
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Generally it is not all that difficult to get the truth when it involves something as criminal as signing out unsafe airplanes.
If in fact that is true then its time someone goes to jail to get a message out to the industry.
I'm hoping that Transport is doing the job that we the taxpayers expect them to do.
If TC is operating outside of their rules then they should be put in jail.
If in fact that is true then its time someone goes to jail to get a message out to the industry.
I'm hoping that Transport is doing the job that we the taxpayers expect them to do.
If TC is operating outside of their rules then they should be put in jail.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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The years I spent in "Friendly Manitoba," Fast Air always struck me as a very professional operation and a place I would have concidered applying to...once again I'm learning that looks can be deceiving (someday I need to stop "learning" that lesson).
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Unfortunately, probably none of that will happen, not anytime soon anyways.Cat Driver wrote:Generally it is not all that difficult to get the truth when it involves something as criminal as signing out unsafe airplanes.
If in fact that is true then its time someone goes to jail to get a message out to the industry.
I'm hoping that Transport is doing the job that we the taxpayers expect them to do.
If TC is operating outside of their rules then they should be put in jail.
Are there any good and honest companies out there anymore?
What is a pilot to do?
Something very drastic needs to happen very soon with this industry in this country.
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Auger9, I sympathize with your frustration.
I also have lost all faith in the system, am I being to unreasonable to have the expectation that after being in this business for 55 years the industry would be better not worse as far as safety and fairness in the regulation of the industry goes?
In my opinion it is not worse...it is far worse.
I also have lost all faith in the system, am I being to unreasonable to have the expectation that after being in this business for 55 years the industry would be better not worse as far as safety and fairness in the regulation of the industry goes?
In my opinion it is not worse...it is far worse.

The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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There are 60 of us working at Fast Air, who's incomes depend on the company having a good reputation. Every TC employee that I came across while they were there, was very polite. I believe, from my experiences, that it is a very safe company. For the sake of those of us average Joe's who depend on this reputation, please hold off on dragging our name through the mud, until TC finishes their investigation. It is appreciated. 

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does that mean you are all "on vacation" for the next while???
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Not meaning to drag Fast Air's name through the mud but we fired our director of maintenance recently because the owner said he was fixing to many parts plus on our Medevac side our non pilot(Nurse) medevac manager always pushed the pilots on the duty times. Man we would start our duty day at 9am for example do a flight be back at base 12pm and then we would be told your good for duty till 11pm but if no call's come in your fresh at 830pm and we would do this for 7 days straight. Oh and if you argued this they would say it's legal under the CARS and then fire you so no one else would think about arguing with the nurse manager, trust me they would do this. We had a Captain here for years and decided to argue the point and got canned. So now you know why we had a accident. Honestly i'm surprised it didn't happen sooner but I'm thanking god no one got hurt. So we should get shut down cause the next accident might not be so lucky. Oh and yes 60 employee's but what's more important 60 jobs or 1 life.
Truly One Disgrundal Employee!!!
Truly One Disgrundal Employee!!!