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How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:37 am
by Double Wasp
I know they lost a few contracts a little while ago and that there were a few guys that got laid off. Any word on some final numbers and how everyone else is doing?
Thanks
DW

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:16 pm
by ScudRunner
The total number was 34 pilots as well a few Mechanics got the news.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:55 am
by Embraer190
Any rumours about you guys getting called back anytime soon?

I know a guy who got laid-off from Canada 3000 and he was collecting 70k/year in unemployment and playing golf until he got hired at Zoom. Think about it. :lol:

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:42 am
by richardhead
I think you may have your numbers a little askew. The only way a
guy in Canada can get 70k from EI is if he steals it.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:36 am
by Sulako
Embraer190 wrote:I know a guy who got laid-off from Canada 3000 and he was collecting 70k/year in unemployment and playing golf until he got hired at Zoom. Think about it. :lol:
Fail.

http://www.rhdsc.gc.ca/eng/ei/types/regular.shtml#much

"The basic benefit rate is 55% of your average insured earnings up to a yearly maximum insurable amount of $41,100. This means you can receive a maximum payment of $435 per week. Your EI payment is a taxable income, meaning federal and provincial or territorial, if it applies, taxes will be deducted."

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:00 pm
by C-MNOP
Suluko is bang-on.

After you have recieved any ui payments and when you do get a job again, and are making a decent wage, that the taxman claws back a percentage depending on how large your new pay is.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:41 pm
by atpilot
Embraer190 wrote:Any rumours about you guys getting called back anytime soon?
I don't think the layoffs take effect until the new year. I still hear them departing every night. Maybe CJ will pick up a couple of contracts and the call backs will happen sooner than later.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:59 pm
by Double Wasp
Thanks for the replies. 34 that is quite a few. Hope everyone manages to find something. I know a lot of good people that are working there and the company is a decent one.
Good luck to all.
DW

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:34 pm
by Embraer190
Sulako wrote:
Fail.

http://www.rhdsc.gc.ca/eng/ei/types/regular.shtml#much

"The basic benefit rate is 55% of your average insured earnings up to a yearly maximum insurable amount of $41,100. This means you can receive a maximum payment of $435 per week. Your EI payment is a taxable income, meaning federal and provincial or territorial, if it applies, taxes will be deducted."
I had my figures mixed up, thanks for the clarification, it's still a good chunk of cash for doing nothing.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:09 pm
by KAFUFO
Embraer190
it's still a good chunk of cash for doing nothing.
$1700+ change pre tax a month to live in YVR. hmmmmm, how's living with mom and dad going for you

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:32 pm
by just curious
"bout the same as working for a Navajo Operator in YVR I guess.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:50 pm
by wallypilot
KAFUFO wrote:
Embraer190
it's still a good chunk of cash for doing nothing.
$1700+ change pre tax a month to live in YVR. hmmmmm, how's living with mom and dad going for you
with the commitments of house and family, it's not at all even close to manageable in YVR, or in most major centres in canada.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:34 am
by Hoov
Embraer190 wrote:Any rumours about you guys getting called back anytime soon?

I know a guy who got laid-off from Canada 3000 and he was collecting 70k/year in unemployment and playing golf until he got hired at Zoom. Think about it. :lol:
Are we calling a mini-putt a golf course these days?

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:34 am
by Embraer190
Well, if the choice is to make 41k or nothing, I'd go with the 41k.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:00 pm
by UKBound
E190

EI does not pay 41,000. It pays a maximum of 55% of this before tax. As mentioned previously, not much.

Cheers

UKB

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:13 pm
by ram
The maximum is $739.00 after tax...Bi-mthly. ($1478.00 a mth take home)

Been there!

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:09 pm
by billy ray valintine
what happend to the thread?
i thougth it was about the cargojet people that were being laid-off?
i talked to some dudes and was informed that mtce got hit hard.
not sure of the exact number,but seems morale is down in yhm!
i know a few mech's that work there,and they tell me things have
changed since the inception of this company.
hope it all works out for everyone involed :rolleyes:

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:36 pm
by ScudRunner
Same old story in Aviation expanding too quickly. You can't make money flying 767's 4 hours a night 5 days a week that cost you 300K each a month in lease. Not to mention a 757 costing close to the same, the saving in fuel burn aside if you can buy a 727 for a half million the price of fuel is going to have to go way the fack up before the math starts working.

Can I add Cargojet on the Dead pool list of 2009?

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:34 am
by Flaps 1 Billion
I don't think they'll die .. but I think it'll be a long year or so. To answer the question, sounds like most of the f/o's out west have moved onto something else, for the so's in yhm I'm not sure, though it's not the best time of year to get something. Good luck everyone, all the best for a better 2009.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:16 pm
by boeingboy
Same old story in Aviation expanding too quickly
Not quite the same old story.........

Get a nice big contract, big new planes, then bite the hand feeding you. Now you got planes you can't fill or make money with. They should have been doing the YYZ-YVR-HNL route 7 days a week.

Your right though, Cargojet won't disappear - AJ stiill has all his own stuff to move and that wouldn't change. Lets hope they can turn it around.

On the other hand - there are winds of change abound..........................

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:50 pm
by DanJ
ram wrote:The maximum is $739.00 after tax...Bi-mthly. ($1478.00 a mth take home)

Been there!
I think it depends on the province, but my wife got $762 every 2 weeks after she was "restructured" this past summer. Of course, you end up paying extra tax on this when you file your taxes in the spring.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:27 pm
by codfish
sounds like a Westjet paycheque!

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:06 pm
by xqs-me
Just wondering? what do you mean by "bite the hand feeding you" and "there are winds of change abound"?...you can PM if you want. Thanks
boeingboy wrote:
Same old story in Aviation expanding too quickly
Not quite the same old story.........

Get a nice big contract, big new planes, then bite the hand feeding you. Now you got planes you can't fill or make money with. They should have been doing the YYZ-YVR-HNL route 7 days a week.

Your right though, Cargojet won't disappear - AJ stiill has all his own stuff to move and that wouldn't change. Lets hope they can turn it around.

On the other hand - there are winds of change abound..........................

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:26 am
by Flaps 1 Billion
Hey BB

What do you mean the hnl work? You've mentioned that before but I've never heard anyone talk about such a route. pm too if you like.

Re: How is everyone at Cargojet holding up?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:08 pm
by atpilot
I heard that Flightcraft might be hiring a few ex-Cargojet SO's. It's good to some guys/gals finding work.