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Just thought I would share that I am once again quitting smoking. I quit several times over the years... they say most people have to try 10 x on average before succeeding in the long run. I was doing really well last year until I went to Indonesia where everyone smokes and they're only 10,000 Rupiahs a pack (approx. a dollar).

Anyway, the reasons for quitting in the past have mostly been due to outside influences, but this time I truly want to quit for myself. For the money, but more than anything is for the health reasons. The feelings of anxiety and paranoia were becoming too much to deal with. It was getting to the point where every time I had a cigarette, I felt like cancer was creeping down my throat.

That said, I've used the patch in the past but it has it's problems. Any heavy work or exercise where you begin to sweat is a problem because your pores open up and too much nicotine gets in... feelings of being light-headed and nausea prevail. You are still getting nicotine so when you go off, you still crave it. That said, it has worked for me in the past.

This time, I went and talked to a doctor about it for the first time. Pharmaceutical companies came out with Xyban several years ago, but it wasn't as effective as they hoped. After one year, maybe 30 out of 100 people stayed non-smokers. I can't remember how he said this drug worked... sorry.

So, more recently, they came out with Champix. It's proven to be very effective and more like 70 out of 100 people stayed non-smokers. In the end, it's really up to you. This drug works to affect the nicotine receptors in the brain. You simply don't want it. You start on a small dosage of the drug and are still allowed to smoke.... set a date one week from when you start your prescription to quit, but the thing is most people never make it to their quit date. I only last three days and I just didn't want to smoke. The only reason I even think about the smoking is because I know I have to continue the medication. Obviously, there are side effects but like all drugs, some people are affected and others are not.

All that said, the FAA does not allow it... sorry guys south of the border. You're out of luck on this one. TC has taken a different approach though. The "recommend" you don't fly for the first week, then decide for yourself whether or not you can continue the medication and perform your duties as a pilot at the same time. I will say it made me nauseous at first, but I found that by taking it right after breakfast and right after dinner, this problem ceased. Also, my dreams are little vivid, but nothing crazy. The Nicoderm patch gave me nightmares.

So, that's it guys/girls... if you've been thinking of quitting, but aren't sure how or don't think you can, I suggest you try this. It's working great for me so far... plus, I have an appetite again and can taste food. :mrgreen: I can already tell the difference in things as simple as walking a flight of stairs.

Good luck to all those want to take the next step towards a healthier lifestyle. :D
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I had quit for seven years prior to my husbands accident. I got the call that the plane was missing and picked up one of his loose smokes (he was still smoking) without even realizing what I was doing.

I've tried to quit several times over the last four years. Closure seemed to be the big thing preventing me from being able to cut it out. First it was gonna be the raising of the wreck. No closure there. Then the raising of the engine, again no closure. I'm infinitely hopeful that with the release of the Coroner's Report (today to gov't agencies, next week to me), I will finally have the closure I need to feel strong enough to fight the battle.

Zyban is an anti-depressant, and only works so far as making things less important. I never got off on the nicotine patch/gum/etc., replacing one method of nicotine ingestion with another didn't seem like the way to go. I've tried the Champix, and it was working - until all hell broke loose, again. I'll try it again .... real soon :smt040
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If you live in Kelowna, Kamloops or Penticton my wife's business has a study for you.

Sorry for the shameless promotion, but if you want to quit, how could it hurt?

http://www.healthresearch.ca/currentstudies.php
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Cold turkey is seriously the only way. Tell yourself you want and deserve to quit, break and shred any smokes you have left and take a 2 week vacation to a lonely spot where you have to walk 10 miles to buy a pack. I feel for you cause I've done it already, bout 7 years now, my lungs feel real good. :goodman:
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bandaid wrote:If you live in Kelowna, Kamloops or Penticton my wife's business has a study for you.

Sorry for the shameless promotion, but if you want to quit, how could it hurt?

http://www.healthresearch.ca/currentstudies.php
Don't apologize... I started the thread to share my own personal experiences with the hope of passing on some useful information. As long as you're not promoting smoking, post away. :mrgreen:
GilletteNorth wrote:Cold turkey is seriously the only way.
My sister is trying to tell me the same thing... that's how she did it. I believe that everyone is different though. I've tried this and it didn't work. I didn't buy any smokes and went to a mine up north where I was to be based for three weeks. I ended up buying cigarettes off miner's for a buck a smoke. LOL. Anyway, I truly believe this is going to work for me. I think the single most important thing is you have to WANT to quit.
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I quit smoking in 1976 by buying a deck of my faves and not opening it, putting it in my pocket. Whenever I felt like a smoke I pulled it out and never opened it, told myself I really didn't want one, put it back in my pocket. I threw it out about 3 months later when it was starting to fall apart.

Cold turkey. Go for it!
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Cold turkey's the only way. I used to smoke American cigarettes because they were readily available, but I was at a New Year's party in 1986 and ran out of Marlboroughs just before midnight. I bought a pack of Export A's at the bar, but they tasted so friggin bad I smoked one and that was it. I gave the pack away and haven't touched one since.

As an aside, back in the late '60's the Canadian dollar was $1.07 US or something. I used to pay $1.10 US for a carton of Camels at the American px in Goose.
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Ive smoked steadily for almost 30 years now. I didnt believe there would ever be a day that I would be smoke free. A friend recently brought the brand new "E-Cigarette" to my attention. I thought it was a gimmick until I actually saw and tried one! They work VERY well!

Im down to 8 real cigs a day now (and have been for 4 weeks) and i was a regular pack & 1/2 a day smoker. This new product WORKS! I plan to be smoke free by May 1st:)

Its basically a microprocessor that activates the e-cig. The tips are liquid nicotine cartridges with high,medium, low and zero nicotine tips(filters) available. What it does is deliver nicotine to the blood system exactly as a regular cigarette does.. but it heats & atomizes the liquid nicotine and although when you blow it out it appears as a "fog" .. it disipates in under 5 secs as its NOT smoke, its atomized nicotine that vapourizes in 5 secs.. No smell, no smoke, no tar, no carbon monoxide, no harmful chemicals. Its only delivers the nicotine that the body craves. Then you slowly wein yourself off the nicotine, all the time mimicking(sp??) real smoking almost perfectly.

Half the battle is the HABIT of smoking.. so if you can stay in your regular routine of smoking when you get the urge and you do that with the e-cig.. The withdrawl symptoms are almost nil with this e-cig..as you step the nicotine down all the time still "smoking". Its the best 149.00$ USD$ that ive ever spent..I expect to be fully smoke free in the next 3 weeks:)

It worked for me.. Its at least worth a look. If it can help me quit, it can help ANYBODY.. I admit im a hardcore smoker and always have been.

www.epuffer.com
I have the EAZE Magnum Rev 2 Kit.

Cheers

PS.. I stated a friend showed this to me..In actuality it was my family doctor who has also smoked for 25 years who used this method to quit. He is still on his e-cig BUT totally free of real cigarettes. It works! You dont even have to WANT to quit.. just have a desire to quit and this e-cig will help you. Cold turkey was/is impossible for me.
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sorry all but because of this...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... hub=Health

E-Cigarettes are no longer available for sale or distribution anywhere in Canada.. until Health Canada has had time to assess the health risks associated (or in other words, more time to figure out how to TAX them, and make up the lost revenue they will lose when a few million of us quit!) Its unbelievable to me how much power our government truly wields.

I just went to paypal to try to reorder my filters and paypal no longer supports transactions from that website or distributor until further notice. This leaves me in a personal YIKES situation. If anyone has some extra filters for sale, pls pm me.

I guess the e-cigarette is out as an option. For now at least.
It truly does work for those of you willing to seek it out on the black market.. they do work and are COMPLETELY safe.
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Watched my mother die of COPD after a life long addiction. Should be required viewing for smokers.
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xsbank wrote:I quit smoking in 1976 by buying a deck of my faves and not opening it, putting it in my pocket. Whenever I felt like a smoke I pulled it out and never opened it, told myself I really didn't want one, put it back in my pocket.

ISN'T IT JUST A TERRIBLE HABIT TO BREAK!?!?!

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I'm going on 2 weeks without lighting up. I went to a mixed martial arts class...I got my ass kicked...literally. I just went jogging for the first time in a long long while. I think my lungs burned my insides.

I should know better. My father got 1/2 a lung cut out...there is no need for smoking. I'm feeling better for not. The trick for me is knowing to remove myself from those 'triggers' that lead to lighting up.

Cancer AIN'T the way to go. Doc is right. It's fucking brutal to witness...and all for what!? A slight head rush after the first drag!?

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flyinthebug wrote: E-Cigarettes are no longer available for sale or distribution anywhere in Canada.. until Health Canada has had time to assess the health risks associated (or in other words, more time to figure out how to TAX them, and make up the lost revenue they will lose when a few million of us quit!) Its unbelievable to me how much power our government truly wields.
Here's comedian Chris Rock doing a bit about government regulated drugs vs. "Illegal" drugs... :lol: :lol:

It's very sad...but very true!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GXb7-efd4M
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I am Birddog wrote:I'm going on 2 weeks without lighting up
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flyinthebug wrote:I plan to be smoke free by May 1st:)
:smt023 Right on guys... I'm proud of the both of you. I'm also at two weeks, no smoking. I'm using Champix though, but hey, whatever works, right. :wink:
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flyinthebug wrote:sorry all but because of this...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... hub=Health

E-Cigarettes are no longer available for sale or distribution anywhere in Canada.. until Health Canada has had time to assess the health risks associated (or in other words, more time to figure out how to TAX them, and make up the lost revenue they will lose when a few million of us quit!) Its unbelievable to me how much power our government truly wields.
Isn't it F'ing unbelievable? The anti-smoking fascism campaign degrades you to a second class citizen, and you are bombarded by "You can quit smoking" propaganda, BUT: Crack pipes and needles are paid for in full, yet niccorette, nicoderm, zyban, etc aren't even subsidized. That fact that we're paying for condoms bothers me too. The massive revenue from alcohol & tobacco taxes goes nowhere near the medicare system. The government likes it's revenue source.
flyinthebug wrote: It truly does work for those of you willing to seek it out on the black market.. they do work and are COMPLETELY safe.
There argument was that that user added nicotine quantities were a danger of nicotine overdose, yet tobacco, niccorette & nicoderm all carry the same danger. 1 hazardous chemical VS dozens.
They already take half our money, we're not even allowed a helping hand to quit smoking. They'll happily spend money to "rehabilitate" felons though.

I'm writing letters over this.
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Having yourself admitted to intensive care at a hospital with breathing problems was enough for me. That was 26 years ago.
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I just can't figure out why people would start smoking in the first place. :smt017 Just makes no sence.
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username: wrote:I just can't figure out why people would start smoking in the first place. :smt017 Just makes no sence.

I am a LOVER of fine phat Cuban cigars. Just ask Dust Devil 8)

That's how it started. They are just so tasty. Better than mothers milk...

Don't judge smokers. It just sneaks up and catches ya where you didn't expect it to. Until you've been there, don't judge. I used to judge. Now here I am trying to kick the habit.

Funny how life is.
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I dunno why a reasonably intelligent human being like myself..having watched my father die a horrifying and painful death (aeortic anurism sp??) from smoking when I 20..would still decide its "ok" to pick up a cigarette!? The problem for me was my dad smoked and grandparents all smoked and I was raised around all of them. Monkey see monkey do as a kid. At 16 I was already smoking full time for over 2 years and was hooked early in life. By the time my father passed away from his smoking at 59 yrs old.. I was 20 and already hopelessly hooked. Im mid 40s now and I keep telling myself..Its ok, your dad and grandparents all died from heart disease.. but *I* wont. ha ha ha ya right.. One day not too far away, if i dont quit I too will have my heart explode in my 50s so my desire to quit now is strong.

The e-cigarette is doing the job for me.
Sure, maybe i`ll get 10 mg of nicotine in one inhale and maybe ill even feel a little light headed for 30 secs after I smoke the e-cigarette. But for Health Canada to step in this way and now make it ILLEGAL to use an e-cig (until they figure out how to tax it 800% like a real cig) is outrageous at best.

Topspin laid it out well above. It NEVER ceases to amaze me how quickly the government jumps on things that WILL make us live longer (and not just smokes) and then deny us access to the life saving product.

Ya know some people believe there is a cure for cancer sitting in a secret lab in Switzerland somewhere. That only the very wealthy have access to it. If it were to become publicly available it would stagger the worlds economy at first.. and the subsequent balloning in population would ultimately be our demise. If you need any proof of this.. why does the Royal family all live well into their 90s? Their genes arent that good! Im not saying theres really any truth to that rumour.. but when my government lets me down yet again it sure makes me wonder whats true and whats not.

Either way, im determined to live past 59 now more then ever and i WILL quit these damn things.

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I am Birddog wrote: I am a LOVER of fine phat Cuban cigars. Just ask Dust Devil 8)
:roll: Whenever you smoke one of those, just remember, it looks like you are sucking on a big brown cock.
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username: wrote:
I am Birddog wrote: I am a LOVER of fine phat Cuban cigars. Just ask Dust Devil 8)
:roll: Whenever you smoke one of those, just remember, it looks like you are sucking on a big brown cock.

So...you search out men smoking cigars just to watch and imagine that?

I may have bad habit, however it sounds like you may have a moral dilemma.


I'm just sayin' is all...
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username: wrote:I just can't figure out why people would start smoking in the first place. :smt017 Just makes no sence.
You hit the nail on the head RIGHT THERE! People dont' realize the "trick". If you don't light a smoke, you're a NON SMOKER!

Try it, if you don't smoke today, and you don't smoke tomorrow, you'll never crave the stinkin things again. It's only when you have "just a puff", "just one ciggy" that you screw yourself by re-introducing the nicotine. No one, not even the die hard dedicated smoke nazis really wants to smoke. They all hate the smell, feel, taste. it's just their brains are mis wired due to the "last" smoke they just had.

vtech's 1 step recovery program? Don't light another smoke. that's it. Tomorrow you MIGHT feel a slight twinge of "hmm something is wrong here" within three days it's over. as long as you do not smoke. It's the guys who try to "cut it back" or try the patch that really break my heart, because of the cycle they are almost guarantted to fail.

Find me a smoker who finds it "so hard" to quit, it's because they insist on continuing to smoke.

I smoked firmly from the age of 11 to 26. I quit the day after my 26th birthday after a night of debauchery and too much smoking. I simply put the pack down, vowed to not have another and didn't. Probably the easiest thing in the world to do, as long as you don't light another! I'm now 33 and you couldn't get me to smoke a cigarette with a gun to my head.

I'd say YMMV but it won't if you follow the 1 step plan. ;)
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I am Birddog wrote:
username: wrote:
I am Birddog wrote: I am a LOVER of fine phat Cuban cigars. Just ask Dust Devil 8)
:roll: Whenever you smoke one of those, just remember, it looks like you are sucking on a big brown cock.

So...you search out men smoking cigars just to watch and imagine that?

I may have bad habit, however it sounds like you may have a moral dilemma.


I'm just sayin' is all...
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vtech.. You are not alone in your opinion that "cold turkey" is the only way. I have to admit there must be some merit to this claim, as many people close to me have quit via this method.

I am starting to wonder wtf is wrong with me? Why cant I do the cold turkey thing? Im NOT weak minded nor weak willed. I KNOW the positive affect that my quitting would have on me personally.. my children, as well as those around me. When i put them down..I get severe and serious withdrawl to a point that its unmanageable. I can usually keep busy enough to get through the first couple days of hard withdrawl.. Its the NIGHT that becomes almost terrifying to me. When I quit cold turkey(and ive tried 100 times), my body reacts in a very physical way to the withdrawl and I get nightmares and night sweats that should likely be medically documented. I feel like im coming off coke or some other useless street drug..but its just nicotine!

Many doctors compare the withdrawl from nicotine to that of a heroin addict. For me, the e-cig is the ONLY option as I simply cannot seem to physically be able to cope with the withdraw that *I* get from nicotine. Im starting to believe my withdraw symptoms may be more the rarity then the norm. I listen to guys like you vtech who have quit so easily and truly wish I shared your story.. and I do wonder HOW you really did it? Why didnt you experience the same or similiar symptoms as I did?.. I dunno, for me the E-Cig is getting me closer to being completely smoke free.. and if I need to puff on a microprocessor for a few months to stay smoke free.. thats what id like to have the right to do! The government has now outlawed MY only option..Luckily I do have enough filters to last me 7 more weeks.

Thanks Health Canada. pfffffftttt!!
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I quit cold turkey after smoking 10-20 a day for forty years. I haven`t had a cigarette or a cigar since July 2004. My doctor had tried to get me to stop for many years but doubted very much that I could do it because he could not see that I was especially motivated.
I had tried several times over the years but to no avail until one day I received my motivation; my wife wanted us to take a trip to Los Angeles with our youngest daughter. From where I live LA is almost a 24 hour journey and I began to have a nicotine fit just thinking about all that time without a smoke. In addition, we were to spend a couple of days in London on the way over without my wife and I have never smoked in front of my daughter so things were beginning to look pretty depressing-three days without a smoke!
One week before our planned departure I bit the bullet and quit. I have never looked back.
We never made it to LA that time; we travel standby on ID tickets and everything to California from London was full so we ended up in Rome for a week-not too shabby for an alternate, and I kicked the habit.
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flyinthebug wrote: Im starting to believe my withdraw symptoms may be more the rarity then the norm. I listen to guys like you vtech who have quit so easily and truly wish I shared your story.. and I do wonder HOW you really did it? Why didnt you experience the same or similiar symptoms as I did?.. I dunno, for me the E-Cig is getting me closer to being completely smoke free.. and if I need to puff on a microprocessor for a few months to stay smoke free.. thats what id like to have the right to do! The government has now outlawed MY only option..Luckily I do have enough filters to last me 7 more weeks.

Thanks Health Canada. pfffffftttt!!
I will be your biggest supporter in the realm of quitting. I don't mean to belittle the entire thing I just find there is a huge psychological effect to this statement: "I try to quit but it is SOOO HARD!" Just that belief alone will make it hard! ;) So when I hear of those who tried to quit using different methods but didn't succeed, I cringe when they claim how difficult it was knowing that as long as they believe it's hard, it will be.

I also wanted to quit for many years. Attempted to quit at least 10-12 times before succeeding and each one seemed "hard" which is why I had failed. The reality was one simple fact, as soon as I took the next puff, I failed.

It's such a silly scam, and I promise that if you make it to the "other side" when you see it for what it is, you too will feel sorry for those smokers outside your building puffing one more drag, as it is the simple act of smoking, that guarantees their addiction! It's also why quitting with the nicotine "gum, patch whatever" is actually harder than cold turkey. Since you are still providing the brain with some of that yummy nicotine, it doesn't care which method you get it, you're still hooked on the world's most addictive drug. (I'm not familiar if the e-cig uses nicotine or not but if it does......)

So there are a bunch of things I'd love to try to offer but here is the simplest summation of the method. Go to your nearest bookstore and pick up a small paperback by the man named Allen Carr. It's called "The easyway to stop smoking". it's about 50 pages and simple to read. In fact the guy is so cool he offers that you can smoke while you read it.
ha! I read it, didn't REALLY listen and put it away. two years later, I read it again and finally it clicked. Quitting smoking once it "clicks" is as easy as falling off a bicycle.

Forget all the crap about your food tasting better, being able to breathe and being able to smell the roses, all that is nothing compared to how much freedom you'll enjoy not having to rush out to the corner store to get a pack of smokes at 11 pm just before it closes and the stress that it brings. In fact I haven't been to a corner store in so long, I almost forgot they exist.... use the money to put gas in a 172 instead! :)
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Thanks vtech! I promise your words are not falling on deaf ears.

I will keep you posted!

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