Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone has any info/tips/tricks or just general advice on the -26 and -27 Islanders. A copy of a POH would be an added bonus or any detailed information/specs.
Thanks
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Wear ear plugs under your David Clarkes so you do not damage your hearing.
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Looks like Hydraulic is giving you your check out. If so, he should know all the answers you'll need!hydraulic fluid wrote:Are your initials R.T
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Hey Buddy, Congrats. You'll have fun. keep in touch.
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nortont wrote:Who is N181CS.... I flew this plane.. this R.T.
PM me.
hydraulic fluid wrote:Are your initials R.T
... i'll put my $$$ on those initials looking at the posts! congrats on the islander job, very nice and forgiving plane to fly, and also seeing the job posts on AVCAN... from everything I've heard Pats a great boss.Blakey wrote: Looks like Hydraulic is giving you your check out. If so, he should know all the answers you'll need!
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Y'all should taking the "outing" stuff to Private Messages.
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The Islander has a POH now? 1100 hours in one never read it. 
-Remember for take off to set T/O flaps
-Turn the mags off before you open the door. BEEEEEP!
That's pretty much it.
Oh and the Ear plugs! also recommend getting the Ipod Adapter because you aint going anywhere fast.
-Remember for take off to set T/O flaps
-Turn the mags off before you open the door. BEEEEEP!
That's pretty much it.
Oh and the Ear plugs! also recommend getting the Ipod Adapter because you aint going anywhere fast.
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One night when I was flying the Islander
YVR Terminal: Say airspeed
me: 130 knots, like always
3 min later
YVR Terminal: Are you going to maintain your present airspeed ?
Me: Afirmative 130 knots
5 Min later
YVR Terminal: Best Forward speed please
Me: Roger I will maintain Mach zero point one five !
YVR Terminal: Say airspeed
me: 130 knots, like always
3 min later
YVR Terminal: Are you going to maintain your present airspeed ?
Me: Afirmative 130 knots
5 Min later
YVR Terminal: Best Forward speed please
Me: Roger I will maintain Mach zero point one five !
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The Islander has a POH now? 1100 hours in one never read it.
The mark of a professional pilot.
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The POH is an awkward read. Good luck.
As for tricks, when you're really heavy...operating in the upgross mod range or beyond (6300lbs-6600lbs+ MTOW range) you can get an extra 5 knots if you lower the flaps in flight and pull the CB around 3-5 degrees flaps. This will freeze the flaps at that setting. The AC will no longer mush through the air with all the drag from the hershey-bar wings...like a float plane getting on the step. Just remember to reset the CB immediately or you will forget and wonder why you have no flaps on approach.
Oh...so I've heard.
Keep the CFS in arm's reach to stuff between the small of your back and the seat. The BN2 is great but for flights over say, and hour, you back will thank-you. The seats are uncomfortable at the best of times...then load thousands of pounds in the machine multiple times in a day and you will feel it.
Earplugs or an ANR headset is strongly suggested!! Especially if the company you are flying with wants you to T/O will props full-forward. There's info in the POH talking about reduced-power and esp. reduced props for T/O for noise reduction. Very good practices if you aren't field/weight limited. I suggest giving that section a good read. Your ears and passengers will thank-you if you boss doesn't as well.
It's also a good idea to know if your BN2 has the MAG mod (STC I believe) allowing you to start with both mags ON or if you have to start with only one mag that delays the spark to TDC.
Any more questions just ask. Best of luck.
As for tricks, when you're really heavy...operating in the upgross mod range or beyond (6300lbs-6600lbs+ MTOW range) you can get an extra 5 knots if you lower the flaps in flight and pull the CB around 3-5 degrees flaps. This will freeze the flaps at that setting. The AC will no longer mush through the air with all the drag from the hershey-bar wings...like a float plane getting on the step. Just remember to reset the CB immediately or you will forget and wonder why you have no flaps on approach.
Oh...so I've heard.
Keep the CFS in arm's reach to stuff between the small of your back and the seat. The BN2 is great but for flights over say, and hour, you back will thank-you. The seats are uncomfortable at the best of times...then load thousands of pounds in the machine multiple times in a day and you will feel it.
Earplugs or an ANR headset is strongly suggested!! Especially if the company you are flying with wants you to T/O will props full-forward. There's info in the POH talking about reduced-power and esp. reduced props for T/O for noise reduction. Very good practices if you aren't field/weight limited. I suggest giving that section a good read. Your ears and passengers will thank-you if you boss doesn't as well.
It's also a good idea to know if your BN2 has the MAG mod (STC I believe) allowing you to start with both mags ON or if you have to start with only one mag that delays the spark to TDC.
Any more questions just ask. Best of luck.
And you ain't that tall!
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I flew 1700 hours in one, never read it either. Plus, I don't speak British.trey kule wrote:The Islander has a POH now? 1100 hours in one never read it.
The mark of a professional pilot.
-Also 65 Kts, the only airspeed that you'll need to know (Vx, Vy, Vr and Vref). wrote: -Remember for take off to set T/O flaps
-Turn the mags off before you open the door. BEEEEEP!
-No VMC
-Never have to remember to retract your gear either
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Yeah, that Brit speak is wonderful!I flew 1700 hours in one, never read it either. Plus, I don't speak British.
To cross feed, select opposite tank with the fuel cock...
When picketing the aircraft...
Inflate aircraft tyres to...
Alighting the aircraft is accomplished in a normal manner...
I never read the manual either for the whole 0.5 or so I have in one. Flew just like a big ol' 172.
Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?
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Unbelievable. Professional pilots who would actually not be to ashamed to post that they seem to be proud not to have read the manual..
so help me out here, pros, as I am not current with the Canadian regulations
Do you not have to have a PPC to fly an islander"
Does a company not have to do groundschool (type specific)?
Does the company not have to certify training for a ride?
Do they not have to fill out papers for the TC ride of ACP?
Is the POH not a required document for an aircraft any more?
. posted he had never seen one.....does that mean its not a required doc., or he is admitting he never checks the aircraft docs.
The companies you guys worked for must be so proud.
I have considerably more time in islanders then either of you claim. Despite the old 65 kt one liners. Neither of you pros mentioned carb heat issues...and they are an issue in the carberatored islanders. Or the rather fragile nosewheel that takes care and looking afterward...nope...just the old remember 65......but vref????where the hell did you get that for an islander.
Part of being a professional pilot is being the best you can be. And telling someone new to a type that you are such whizes that you dont need to bother reading a manual is not, in my opinion setting a good example.
Each winter I have the pleasure of doing rides with some of you pros who brag about not reading the manuals...mostly pretty marginal pilots...the type that thinks that if its got wings they can fly it. The kind that mysteriously doesnt know how the nose wheel got damaged, of the heater core broken from improper cool down..
To the original poster. Forget all the nonsense you read hear about the language in the manual..Read it and learn.
And if it is, as was the case in Canada, a required document to be carried on board, give some thought to the quality of people that are giving you advice.
so help me out here, pros, as I am not current with the Canadian regulations
Do you not have to have a PPC to fly an islander"
Does a company not have to do groundschool (type specific)?
Does the company not have to certify training for a ride?
Do they not have to fill out papers for the TC ride of ACP?
Is the POH not a required document for an aircraft any more?
. posted he had never seen one.....does that mean its not a required doc., or he is admitting he never checks the aircraft docs.
The companies you guys worked for must be so proud.
I have considerably more time in islanders then either of you claim. Despite the old 65 kt one liners. Neither of you pros mentioned carb heat issues...and they are an issue in the carberatored islanders. Or the rather fragile nosewheel that takes care and looking afterward...nope...just the old remember 65......but vref????where the hell did you get that for an islander.
Part of being a professional pilot is being the best you can be. And telling someone new to a type that you are such whizes that you dont need to bother reading a manual is not, in my opinion setting a good example.
Each winter I have the pleasure of doing rides with some of you pros who brag about not reading the manuals...mostly pretty marginal pilots...the type that thinks that if its got wings they can fly it. The kind that mysteriously doesnt know how the nose wheel got damaged, of the heater core broken from improper cool down..
To the original poster. Forget all the nonsense you read hear about the language in the manual..Read it and learn.
And if it is, as was the case in Canada, a required document to be carried on board, give some thought to the quality of people that are giving you advice.
Accident speculation:
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Thank you the advice........Buddy.
How about you help me to chill and answer the questions with regard to the POH as a required document?
And how you got the training certification done without having to look at a manual?
True professional islander pilots know that unless there is an operational reason, you dont climb an islander at 65 kts...do it on a hot day at gross weight and the cylander temps will take a beating. I also dont know any real islander pilots that do a normal approach (again unless operating requirements necessitate it) at 65 kts.. Start a missed at 65kts and lose an engine and your little pusycat will take you to the scene of the accident. And Vref on an islander totally escapes me..I would ask to see where they read that in the POH....but they proudly admit they havent read it.
Southern Florida and the Caribbean has many shops repairing the damage done from pilots that thought the islander was so easy anyone who could say 65 three times could fly it...and found out they were wrong.
The islander is a simple aircraft. But it takes a professional pilot to fly it well and not beat it up...and professional pilots read the manual....brit speak or not.
As to the chill, I just feel sorry for the guy who comes on here and asks a question and then reads the posts here from all you great ones saying you dont even have to bother with the manual..Just hop in a fly it......
But hey, I should chill and just let the pros help this guy out.
How about you help me to chill and answer the questions with regard to the POH as a required document?
And how you got the training certification done without having to look at a manual?
True professional islander pilots know that unless there is an operational reason, you dont climb an islander at 65 kts...do it on a hot day at gross weight and the cylander temps will take a beating. I also dont know any real islander pilots that do a normal approach (again unless operating requirements necessitate it) at 65 kts.. Start a missed at 65kts and lose an engine and your little pusycat will take you to the scene of the accident. And Vref on an islander totally escapes me..I would ask to see where they read that in the POH....but they proudly admit they havent read it.
Southern Florida and the Caribbean has many shops repairing the damage done from pilots that thought the islander was so easy anyone who could say 65 three times could fly it...and found out they were wrong.
The islander is a simple aircraft. But it takes a professional pilot to fly it well and not beat it up...and professional pilots read the manual....brit speak or not.
As to the chill, I just feel sorry for the guy who comes on here and asks a question and then reads the posts here from all you great ones saying you dont even have to bother with the manual..Just hop in a fly it......
But hey, I should chill and just let the pros help this guy out.
Accident speculation:
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Yeah kids, remember that stuff!!! ...and don't run with scissors, and be nice to old people too while you're at it!
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[quote="trey kule"]Each winter I have the pleasure of doing rides with some of you pros who brag about not reading the manuals...mostly pretty marginal pilots...the type that thinks that if its got wings they can fly it.quote]
by the sounds of it... each winter the "Probe" where you work gets stuck beeing trained by someone so arrogant that there $*** don't stink. or have you ever flown a Islander ....flight sim doesn't count
by the sounds of it... each winter the "Probe" where you work gets stuck beeing trained by someone so arrogant that there $*** don't stink. or have you ever flown a Islander ....flight sim doesn't count
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What ever you do kids don't listen to those old people.Yeah kids, remember that stuff!!! ...and don't run with scissors, and be nice to old people too while you're at it!
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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You should change your name to trey kool 
'cause that's how cool you are.
P.S. -Vyse 65Kts
'cause that's how cool you are.P.S. -Vyse 65Kts
