Why sault college is not a great option

[aviationknowitall]

-Costs more to move to dault ste mare for three yaers than it would to be to do it privately
- They fly old outdated planes that are not good for flight training, and not very economical
-Takes approximately 3 & 1/2 years to complete yor training
-No upper hand in the industry towards getting a job. The only thing you get is an aviation diploma. You might as well use the diploma to start a fire
- You are forced to live in a small town that contains no women
-There is absolutely nothing to do in sault ste marie that is fun except become an alcoholic or go skiing.
-Two years of working time gone down the drain because you are spending it in school
-The profs in the program are incompetant, but there are some goods ones
-Extemely depressing program that makes you take courses that are so unrelated to aviation
-Most of the flight instructors there think they are maverick
-All around poorly run program
-Theres much more

[MCB]

aviationknowitall, is this from personal experience?
Or are you truly an ignorant, 'aviationknowitall'?

I'm just curious as you seem to have very strong views and opinions towards the program.

[Brewguy]

Probably someone whose application was turned down, and is now justifying (to his/her self) why that's okay and why they shouldn't feel disappointed.

Sorry about your luck.

[Sulako]

When someone posts for the first time here, a mod has to approve it before it becomes public.

I approved this post for purely selfish reasons - haven't seen a good flamewar in hours

I didn't go to Sault College so I have no idea what it's like there. I know people who went and I don't remember them cursing about the place or anything, so I wonder about the veracity of this poster.

I'll probably get spanked and be forced to remove the thread if it gets completely outta hand, so please just recognize it for what it is...some random one-post wonder spouting off about something they may or may not have firsthand knowledge of. That's one of the reasons I love this place

[AUGER9]

- You are forced to live in a small town that contains no women

Judging by the tone of your message, this affected you the greatest.

Grow up and move on

[Shiny Side Up]

- You are forced to live in a small town that contains no women

Judging by the tone of your message, this affected you the greatest.

Grow up and move on

He was probably upset when he found out about the saltpeter in the food.

[GoinNowhereFast]

Costs more to move to dault ste mare for three yaers than it would to be to do it privately

I have a feeling they were intoxicated.

They fly old outdated planes that are not good for flight training, and not very economical

Who cares about the economy of the airplanes? Your not paying for it directly. If there was a subsidized school that flew Extra 300's I'd be there in a second.

[AOW]

I never went to Sault College, and I know a number of my contemporaries didn't have the greatest things to say about it, however I have met a large number of graduates who got a lot out of the programme.

-Costs more to move to dault ste mare for three yaers than it would to be to do it privately

Possibly true, although you still have to live while you do your training, plus the cost of living in the Sault isn't that high... There is also advantage to having the costs spread out over a longer time.

- They fly old outdated planes that are not good for flight training, and not very economical

Ok, this is nonsense! The Zlin is definitely an interesting choice as a trainer, but I would personally trade all of my C172 and C150 hours for the equivalent time in a Zlin! It may be harder to fly than a C172, but is that really a bad thing? I often hear that the Zlin fleet is nearing the end of its lifespan, so the college is trying to decide on an aircraft to replace it; my vote is for a fleet of new Decathalons! This would continue the trend of having an unusual airplane for training at the college, and at the same time produce graduates with superior stick and rudder skills. Performance is comparable to the Zlin, and it is aerobatic and it has a constant speed prop...
The PA44 is widely regarded as an ideal multi trainer. I have a few hours in one, and found it to be an easy to fly airplane, well suited for multi/ifr training. It is also one of the most fuel efficient twins available, so your un-economical argument is bs.

-Takes approximately 3 & 1/2 years to complete yor training

Where do you get this number? The programme is only supposed to be 2 3/4 years long... I met a number of people that had their CPL done by the end of 2nd year, and were able to complete instructor ratings in the spring following the end of classes, and instruct for the summer.

-No upper hand in the industry towards getting a job. The only thing you get is an aviation diploma. You might as well use the diploma to start a fire

I haven't found this to be the case. I have seen a number of people get hired because of internal references from friends that they made at Sault College. Networking seems to be an important factor in getting ahead in aviation in this country, and its hard to argue with the network of graduates from the Sault college programme (or any other well established college programme for that matter!)

- You are forced to live in a small town that contains no women

I overnighted in YAM a few months ago and I ran into at least one women. (at least I think that she was a women... I didn't inspect further)

-There is absolutely nothing to do in sault ste marie that is fun except become an alcoholic or go skiing.

I think that says more about your personality than it does about the town.

-Two years of working time gone down the drain because you are spending it in school

Just like I wasted 4 years of my life going to university rather than going to work right out of high school???

-The profs in the program are incompetant, but there are some goods ones

An unfortunate problem in most academic institutions...

-Extemely depressing program that makes you take courses that are so unrelated to aviation

Surely there is some value to having a broader education that covers more than just groundschool!

-Most of the flight instructors there think they are maverick

Awesome!

-All around poorly run program

I would like to see what you consider a well run programme.

-Theres much more

I understand that you didn't like the programme, and there's nothing wrong with that! I personally did all of my training privately and learned a few things that college students don't because of the self directed programme that I followed. However, when it came to working with grads from the Sault College programme, I was embarrassed to find that I hadn't been taught a number of things that the Sault College students had!

[Stan_Cooper]

Great post.

[AOW]

... then you also can run into punks named Stan Cooper who report mdt - svr turbulence somewhere over Haliburton in a BK69...

[gustind]

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[loopa]

-Most of the flight instructors there think they are maverick

When I see you writing that the instructors think they're maverick, and when i look at your username, I have a feeling you think that you're maverick too. What kind of selfish maacho would otherwise come here and bad mouth a program and call him self "knowitall."

Let me break something down to you, no body knows it all. Even those COPA writers don't know it all. There are competent and smart people in this industry, but they don't even know it all.

I suggest you drop the attitude before you get your self into some real diarrhea.

[mikesxr]

Aviationknowitall, you prob dropped out of the program right? This is your way of justifying the drop-out?

sounds about right lol

[aviationknowitall]

wow you guys are dumb. why dont you focus on the stuff that i said and not my name hooooooolllyy. This is just an opinion remember. but it seems i have got into a few of your heads. Remember i am gods gift to aviation, so you better respect what i have to say. i suggest you all go to sault college and have a wonderfull three years prancing around northern ontario

[AUGER9]

ahha, Im so happy you came back, I love watching morons make greater fools of themselves.

And since when is Sault northern ontario?????

[shitdisturber]

I personally think aviationknowitall would benefit from a college program; maybe he'd learn how to spell.

[MCB]

Do Seneca College next!!!!

[Shiny Side Up]

wow you guys are dumb. why dont you focus on the stuff that i said and not my name hooooooolllyy. This is just an opinion remember. but it seems i have got into a few of your heads. Remember i am gods gift to aviation, so you better respect what i have to say. i suggest you all go to sault college and have a wonderfull three years prancing around northern ontario

Worst Troll Ever.

[aviationknowitall]

Do Seneca College next!!!!

i think i will lol

[Brewguy]

Worst Troll Ever.

Oh come on, what about cloudcounter?

[aviationknowitall]

oh yeah i just wanted to let you sault college boys know that you are actually flying a czechoslovakian cinder block with wings. so if you could come in on saturday that would be great. thanks

[gustind]

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[pilotman15]

oh yeah i just wanted to let you sault college boys know that you are actually flying a czechoslovakian cinder block with wings. so if you could come in on saturday that would be great. thanks

yea and i love every minute of it, enjoy the plastic katana aviationdropout, or even better, the favourite of every sunday driver, the 172 as you pay 60000 for your flight training privately

[aviationknowitall]

oh yeah i just wanted to let you sault college boys know that you are actually flying a czechoslovakian cinder block with wings. so if you could come in on saturday that would be great. thanks

yea and i love every minute of it, enjoy the plastic katana aviationdropout, or even better, the favourite of every sunday driver, the 172 as you pay 60000 for your flight training privately

im gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that mmmmmmmk.

[aviationknowitall]

I personally think aviationknowitall would benefit from a college program; maybe he'd learn how to spell.

I actually have a degree in writers craft from york university so u should do what this song says
Show them How Funky and Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It